M5 review from 1972
Old 11-16-2017   #1
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M5 review from 1972

In case you have not seen this. A review from when the M5 was released.

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica...1_Leica_M5.pdf
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Linky no worky.
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Link works fine for me. I have a copy of this review already. I appreciate the reviews from this era, as they are clearly detailed and in-depth. The M5 has a lot of sophisticated features for the era, and even now. It's the only metered M with clear delineation of the metering area in the viewfinder.
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David, check your downloads
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The link works and thank you for providing it. It was an interesting read.
The problem with the M5 for me has always been that compared to the M4 it was somewhat like the Argus C3. Solid, functional and well built in its way but big and box like. Never the less many people still revere it and good luck to them. Just not my cup of tea in terms of its aethetics. But then again a Rolls Royce is somewhat like that when compared with an Aston Martin.
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Thanks, wasn't expecting a download!
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It was cool, but too much to read everything for me... but cool to browse through. Thanks.
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Thanks for the link, Huss. I still love shooting with the M5 more than with any other film camera. I think it's perfect - the size, viewfinder, etc.

It was good to see how this review, apart from the idiosyncrasies of the time, still holds up...especially the part about the black finish that should stand the test of time. Looking at some of these 40+ year-old M5 in near pristine condition, bears that out.

I'm on my second M5 now and I don't think I would ever sell this one, unless I was really strapped for cash. So glad to be using it, and making images with it, in 2017.

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It was cool, but too much to read everything for me... but cool to browse through. Thanks.
John,

I think that the most interesting thing about the review. It clearly shows how our patience for taking in information has changed.

That review reads like a New Yorker piece...

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Geoffrey Crawley strikes a bell. Didn't he devise developers back in the day?

I do remember this review. And it stands up today. Excellent comprehensive review.
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Thanks for the link, Huss. I still love shooting with the M5 more than with any other film camera. I think it's perfect - the size, viewfinder, etc.

It was good to see how this review, apart from the idiosyncrasies of the time, still holds up...especially the part about the black finish that should stand the test of time. Looking at some of these 40+ year-old M5 in near pristine condition, bears that out.

I'm on my second M5 now and I don't think I would ever sell this one, unless I was really strapped for cash. So glad to be using it, and making images with it, in 2017.

Thanks again, Huss!
You're welcome Ivan!

I miss the original frame lines of my M5. Mine suffered from prism separation and when Sherry Krauter fixed it, she replaced it with the MP set including the 28mm frames. I much preferred the old one that had the larger 35mm frames, and no 28mm ones...
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Geoffrey Crawley strikes a bell. Didn't he devise developers back in the day?

I do remember this review. And it stands up today. Excellent comprehensive review.
He wrote a great review/book on the Pentax LX, (among other things).
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Thanks. Will read ar leisure. I love my M5.
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This review convinced me to get an M5 15 years ago. It was nice, but... Sold it 3 years ago at a loss.
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This review convinced me to get an M5 15 years ago. It was nice, but... Sold it 3 years ago at a loss.
You used a regular production camera for 12 years then sold it for a loss? Did you expect anything different?
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M5 tooooo big...
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M5 tooooo big...
Says our President with the small hands.

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Not my president..
But...
Hey..Leica tossed it out the door w/o a 2nd thought....why...tooo biiiigggg...too bigly..and almost bankrupted the company too..
But to be fair..it looks like a pretty cool camera..and probably handles great in person..
I only handled one M5 back in the late 80's..when I was shopping for my 1st M..and thought..no way am I buyin that..way tooo..big...and fugly too..lol...
But..the same can be said of Rolleiflexes..and a # of any other great cams..
And... I have 3 ULF Wisner's sitting in the closet for years now..7x17..12x20...and 16x20..and to be sure..waaayyy...tooo... biiiggg...lol..

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But..the same can be said of Rolleiflexes..
wuh wuh wuh whaaaaat?

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The M5 is like the original Apple personal computer, overlooked by many. However, once the M6 came out (just like when IBM produced the PC junior), everyone validated the M5.
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Rollies..and TLRs in general..
I have about 5 of em..maybe 6 or 7...they are all around the house..lol..in Japanese and German forms..
And after using bright digital screens for years now..
Looking thru the Rollie screen recently and runnin a few rolls....wow..it surely sucks..
As much as I luv the lenses and the mechanics..esp the 5 element f3.5 planars..which I own 2 of..as well as the Rolliecord..which may even be better in some respects to the planars....
Time has moved on with them..
Never the prettiest cams..but they could deliver..but the screens..jeeze..bad stuff..
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The screen in my 2.8GX is extremely bright and easy to focus. 2.8E is good - no issues there. 3.5 MX-EVS, yeah it's dark.
Lubitel 166 - really freakin' hard to focus! Even with the magnifier you are pretty much looking at a plain glass screen with no clue as to if anything is in focus. It does take pretty sweet pics though.
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I would not hesitate to use my Rollies today..its just a pita...in the viewing dept..the cameras are 1st rate..
If I ever take MF seriously again..I would switch screens..to something more modern..
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Rollei SL66 screens are very good. I used to buy them cheaply (when I could) and put them in my hot rodded Pentacon Sixes. I think I still have a fairly complete set somewhere.
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A great and detailed review from when cameras were cameras and not computers. I have been using an M5 which Sherry worked her magic on for about 16 months. I also have a mint M2 which Sherry CLA'ed about two years ago. For the life of me, I cannot decide which is my favorite.

This is my first M5 but I have owned M2's going back to the 1980's. Love the meter on the M5 but the viewfinder on the M2. As for the M5 being too big, well I carried motor drive Nikon F's for years with lenses like 180f2.8, 300f4.5 and even a 500mm now and again.

So no, the M5 is not too big. Try shooting with one sometime and you will probably change your tune.
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The M5 is the only film M that feels properly balanced with the big M lenses such as Noctilux, Nokton 50 1.1 and 35 1.2, ZM 35 1.4 etc
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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
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Wonder, if the magazine had provided a review of the M3 in the same quality as well...
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Wonder, if the magazine had provided a review of the M3 in the same quality as well...
In the official magazine of Leitz USA? I am sure the review is favorable...
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wuh wuh wuh whaaaaat?

Exactly!
Meh to all TLRs and Rollei in particular, Leica and RF rules!

M5? Thanks for the link to review. I just get it now after reviewing the review, M5 is shaped as Canon RF cameras. And here is something like FED-5B in it as well.
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M5 is shaped as Canon RF cameras. And here is something like FED-5B in it as well.
The Zeiss Ikon ZM copied the M5's style. Smooth top plate, squared off, rewind knob on the bottom left.
And yet people fall over themselves for that camera. Perhaps they have a fetish for cheap zinc stampings instead of quality brass covers?
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