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Old 06-22-2018   #1
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Canon 50mm f/2.2

I recently ran across this lens on ebay, and decided to take a chance and I bought it.
I started writing a much longer post with more info, but after an hour typing with my onscreen keyboard, I accidentally clicked F5 and lost everything.
Anyway, I managed to shoot half a roll with the lens over the last few days, and I thought I would share my initial thoughts and a few images with y'all.

It's quite small, even for a LTM 50mm. It's a bit smaller than both my Industar-61 L/D and my Jupiter-8. It feels great in use. Focus is really smooth. It has very little (almost none) distortion. Wide open, it seems sharp enough, and bokeh seems nice. Stopped down it seems plenty sharp.

Here are a few of my test shots from it. Shot with my Canon 7 on Fujicolor C200, and scanned with my Nikon Coolscan V.
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Old 06-22-2018   #2
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My view is that this is an outstanding lens. I offered to take it off his hands, but he flat turned me down !
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Old 06-22-2018   #3
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An unusual lens. Looking at Peter K’s book, about 4,000 were made between January, 1961 to July, 1961. Five elements in four groups. Peter describes it as a budget lens for the Japanese market. Nice find.

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Thanks Colton, an under-represented lens here, and you show it well.
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My view is that this is an outstanding lens. I offered to take it off his hands, but he flat turned me down !
You can have it... when you pry it from my cold, dead hands

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An unusual lens. Looking at Peter Kís book, about 4,000 were made between January, 1961 to July, 1961. Five elements in four groups. Peter describes it as a budget lens for the Japanese market. Nice find.

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I read that on one of the old posts here. I wonder if it is a similar design to a Biometar/Xenotar formula.

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Thanks Colton, an under-represented lens here, and you show it well.
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Old 06-24-2018   #6
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Here's a photo of the lens mounted on my Canon 7.

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Old 06-24-2018   #7
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Colton, this lens has revolutionized your work. I see 1/4 of a person's head in your 3rd picture, and 3 entire people in the 6th.
I like your stuff, as usual.
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nice images, nice lens
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Colton, this lens has revolutionized your work. I see 1/4 of a person's head in your 3rd picture, and 3 entire people in the 6th.
I like your stuff, as usual.
Haha
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nice images, nice lens
Thanks Mike.
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Here's a photo of me, taken by my friend and fellow member GerryM, using my Canon 7 and the 50/2.2, @f/2.2 and 1/30s.

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Looks like you got a good copy Colton. Definitely not a common lens.

I like the small form factor very much.

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Looks like you got a good copy Colton. Definitely not a common lens.

I like the small form factor very much.

Cheers,
I think you posted the few samples on Flickr that helped me decide to buy this lens, so thank you
I really like the small size, except it makes my Canon 7 look really big
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Old 07-23-2018   #13
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Here's another from my Canon 50/2.2 ltm.
Shot wide open, on Fujicolor C200. Scanned with my Epson V750

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Old 07-25-2018   #14
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Here's another recent shot from my Canon 50/2.2 and Canon 7
Fujicolor C200 scanned with my Nikon Coolscan V

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Bessa-R + Canon 50mm f/2.2 + Fujicolor C200 / Tetenal C41

A misnomer lens with 5 elements, seems to be a simplified double-Gaussian. It is sharper than any FSU 50mm I own. I really like the compactness of this lens.
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Bessa-R + Canon 50mm f/2.2 + Fujicolor C200 / Tetenal C41

A misnomer lens with 5 elements, seems to be a simplified double-Gaussian. It is sharper than any FSU 50mm I own. I really like the compactness of this lens.
Good to see someone else using this uncommon lens.
I'm curious if it is a Biometar/Xenotar formula, which seems like the most common 5/4 Gauss design. I'm hardly any kind of lens design expert though so I'm probably wrong
I'm pretty happy with this lens so far.
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Here's the optical formula and the name of the designer.



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Here's the optical formula and the name of the designer.

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Oh awesome!
Looks more like a Biotar design with the rear doublet turned into a single?
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Wow, what fantastic shots. I was vaguely aware of this uncommon lens, but never expected such fine performance - great stuff!
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Wow thanks for the diagram.




BTW this is how it looks on Bessa-R
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Wow thanks for the diagram.

BTW this is how it looks on Bessa-R
They make a pretty pair.
I need to use my Bessa R more...
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Old 08-02-2018   #22
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Here's a bokeh sample from this lens

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Great shots Colton! I have a early f 3.5 35mm Canon lens it is so small I'm afraid I'll loss it. Even though you hit F5 this is a nice right up.
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Great shots Colton! I have a early f 3.5 35mm Canon lens it is so small I'm afraid I'll loss it. Even though you hit F5 this is a nice right up.
Thank you, John. Ya, some of those Canon 35mm and 28mm lenses are tiny.
This 50/2.2 almost feels too small on the big Canon 7
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I just finished scanning a roll of Portra 400 that I shot almost entirely with the Canon 50/2.2, and I have to say I am pretty impressed with this lens. It has very slight pincushion distortion, but other than that I don't see any noticeable weaknesses.


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Like the urban-feel in the shot. I should use this lens more often. Busy shooting a KIEV II these days..
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Like the urban-feel in the shot. I should use this lens more often. Busy shooting a KIEV II these days..
Thanks.
Last weekend, my two main cameras were my Canon 7 with 50/2.2 and my Kiev-2a with Jupiter-12
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Hamish over at 35mmc.com posted a review of this lens today:
https://www.35mmc.com/05/08/2018/can...t-lens-review/
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Hamish over at 35mmc.com posted a review of this lens today:
https://www.35mmc.com/05/08/2018/can...t-lens-review/
Cool to see a review done on this lens.
I can't say I agree with the review regarding sharpness, but I am not using mine on a digital Leica.
From looking at my scans from my Nikon Coolscan, I would say this lens easily falls into the "sharp enough" category.
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Cool to see a review done on this lens.
I can't say I agree with the review regarding sharpness, but I am not using mine on a digital Leica.
From looking at my scans from my Nikon Coolscan, I would say this lens easily falls into the "sharp enough" category.
Same here. I have done a non-scientific, quick comparison between my 50/2.2 and J-8, J-3, I-61, using an M4/3 digital camera. As I wrote above it is sharper and more contrast-y than any of the FSU lens at the same aperture, across the frame. Judging from results on film scans, I think it is on a par with Helios-103. It is definitely more than enough sharp.

That article mentioned distance affecting sharpness, as well as stopping down not helping. To me that sounds like there is misalignment of the elements/lens unit.
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I was just about to link to the 35mmc review, as well. I saw one on eBay a while back and almost bought it just out of curiosity. Wish I had.
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Hamish over at 35mmc.com posted a review of this lens today:
https://www.35mmc.com/05/08/2018/can...t-lens-review/
Its a good analysis. Its a shame that Hamish isn't active on this forum. He has a unique ability to discuss cameras and photography.
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That article mentioned distance affecting sharpness, as well as stopping down not helping. To me that sounds like there is misalignment of the elements/lens unit.
I had gotten the same impression [as that expressed on 35mmc] from images displayed on this forum, especially by Colton: the 50/2.2 appears uniquely suited for portraiture, less so for landscapes.
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Here's a Fujicolor C200 frame shot with the 50/2.2 and scanned with my Nikon Coolscan V. Crop from scan below.




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What aperture?

Pretty sharp image for a lens that (supposedly) isn’t good for landscapes.

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Pretty sharp image for a lens that (supposedly) isnít good for landscapes.

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That was f/11 IIRC.
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That was f/11 IIRC.
Yeah, that works .
I still really want one for the close work, ok! If works this well at distance, so much the better.
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Yeah, that works .
I still really want one for the close work, ok! If works this well at distance, so much the better.
I found mine on ebay, then a few weeks later another one showed up on ebay. Keep an eye out, you might get lucky.

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Untitled by Colton Allen, on Flickr
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I found mine on ebay, then a few weeks later another one showed up on ebay. Keep an eye out, you might get lucky.
Indeed I do keep an eye open.. and itís ever a play between price and condition and my present budget. Thereís been one listed recently which looks fine but for the fungus ...
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Here's one from my new photozine that was done with the Canon 50/2.2
Of the 21 photos in the zine, all but 1 were done with the 50/2.2



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