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Old 08-09-2019   #41
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I agree with Ko.Fe about the function of a watch. It is is to tell the time, instantly, at a glance. The apple watch is not such a watch. I bought an Oris automatic watch in 2010. I was tired of getting batteries changed in my quartz watch. I never had time so I was wearing my grandfather's Cyma and worried I would damage it. That kept perfect time.

I went into the jeweller's and asked for a steel braceleted automatic waterproof watch with a second hand and a big smooth crown as plain as possible. You're kidding aren't you? Nope. He showed me a Raymond Weil and an Oris. Have you heard of these brands? Yes, at least the Raymond Weil. So you'll take the Raymond Weil? No, I'll take the Oris. Not till the sale went through did the guy see that I was the real deal.

Eventually the watch needed servicing and regulating to keep better time. It is now a few seconds fast per day. Knowing I'd be without it for a few weeks waiting on an important part, I went to the second hand watch dealer next door and looked for another watch to be my backup. I didn't like many. I bought an Oris diver's watch that fitted my requirements. I went outside and sent a photo of it to my son. The Oris 65 he tells me quick as a flash. Mine is the 2015 revival version with the big numbers. It's great. It was within 2 seconds per day accuracy. So now I have two good watches, keeping excellent time. I may never buy another watch. The same cannot be said of my son.
I'm with both of you. A watch is a lot more functional than a smart device for me. It's just there. It doesn't need batteries, or a charger. I've got enough gadgets to keep track of. Now even on my bike, with some Garmin gear. At least the bike itself doesn't need charging.

And similarly, while i certainly appreciate them, I can't justify more than a few. They do just one purpose, to tell time. At least cameras have different utilities. (Don't get me started on fountain pens, though as far as collectables go, they don't take up space, and I have the skills to fix up estate sale finds).

For those in this thread that don't see the cost/benefit of mechanical watches, allow me to introduce you to the Seiko 5 series. Cheap and go forever without service, and of course, no batteries. Like the old pre-quartz Timexes, but far more accurate.

As an aside, what I do find interesting looking around at other people's wrists is that I see smart watches far more common among older generations. You'd think it'd be the other way around. Might just be a bit of confirmation bias.
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Watches have very distinctive looks, which can be spotted from far away, and they don't need to be expensive to have a unique appearance:


Junghans "Bauhaus" Trilastic


Citizen "Bullhead" chronograph


Alpha "skeleton"


Steinhart Ocean Vintage Military


Poljot gold watch


Yema Sous-marine

Even a quick look at the movement will be enough for an aficionado to identify the watch:


Volna 2809 "Precision" caliber

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Cameras for social posturing? Strange. A perversion, by definition.
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I'm more of a watch guy than camera and I can spot a nice watch 10 ft. away just by the case design on many models. Spotting a fake is another story, but some are easy.

I've owned close to 400 watches (mainly vintage) and even taught myself watchmaking to do minor repairs when needed

Currently I only have two and both from the same company

Watch nerds will know the brand

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I love your watches but can attest to the fact that this model is large and heavy to wear. So I only wear mine now and then, when I feel in the mood. And I have to confess up front - mine is a "homage" watch - not exactly a fake as it is not labelled Panerei or Luminor tho' its design is classically so and unmistakable. Visually its fit and finish is very good though no doubt it suffers greatly by comparison with the real thing both in terms of the fineness of its finish and of the quality of the movement.

I must say I especially like your black model Luminor. From the fact that mine is a copy watch it can be discerned that I am not so addicted to watches as I am to cameras and lenses - the latter in particular. But there is something special about classic watch designs (as with the best classic camera and lens designs). I do however own an original Schaffhausen IWC from the 1960's (my fathers watch and a kind of entry level drug for those more afflicted than I am to the classic watch drug). The IWC is this model but of slightly later vintage. And beautiful it is too.

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Somehow quality watches and classic cameras seem to go together.


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That's why I wear a Pebble. Display always on.

Always wanted a better mechanical watch, but it's a little daunting. So if you choose something affordable (as in under $2000), it probably won't appreciate in value. Plus mechanicals need CLAs just like cameras do, every 10 years, if not less. Might as well go with a classy-looking Timex and not feel quite the loss when it dies.
There is a huge range of good looking, decent quality mechanical and quartz watches, and you don't have to spend a lot for one. Even a simple Seiko 5 can be beautiful, classic and stylish. Check this out, I would totally wear this model if I could get one in Australia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNUGxV6zCm8

If you don't want mechanical and prefer the accuracy and ease of use of quartz, Citizen and Seiko offer a fair number of solar powered models that will go for years and years.
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Now that I am retired, I don't wear my watches. I'm planning to sell them all.
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A lot of younger people use a watch as a fashion item and their smartphone as their 'pocket watch'. As someone who loves watches, this doesn't work for me. This morning, I had to run an errand which required parking in a space for under half an hour, or I'd be hit with a big jump in parking fees. Now, I could have used my usual dive watch with timing bezel, turning the bezel to the minute I arrived and checking for elapsed time, but in this instance, I used my Casion G Shock with stopwatch function. Seeing the time tick over in digital form gave a real sense of security. I could have used a normal watch, a diving watch with timing bezel, or even my smartphone, but the G Shock was a fun and practical way to do it.


Funny, I had my Sony RX0 and Contax T3 with me. When I ran my errand in four minutes (thanks, G Shock!) I sat down for an egg and bacon muffin and pulled out the T3 to take a photo. Imagine my consternation when it didn't turn on! Thankfully, it was only a low battery. So there's my solar powered G Shock zipping along, and my beloved T3 with a dead battery, hahaha!
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In 1998 I became interested in mechanical watches. I joined the Time Zone web forums and became totally addicted.

Although the watch's main purpose is to tell time, we watch aficionados all know an inexpensive quartz watch will easily exceed the accuracy of the best mechanical watches.

Rather, just as manual transmissions on cars let you become more involved in driving, mechanical watches allow you to appreciate the complex aspects of keeping time, with maybe the complications of moon phase, calendar functions, and so on.

My collection is fairly modest:

Tag Heuer 2000 automatic, Valjoux caliber 7750
Omega Speedmaster, manual wind, caliber 1863
Seiko Diver, automatic, caliber 7s26
Debaufre, manual wind, Unitas caliber 6498
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Collecting watches appears to be one of the few things that make collecting Leica's seem cheap. And the smartphone in your pocket technically makes both redundant (not that that ever stopped anyone).
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Doesn't every just use their phone for a camera - I mean watch?
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@jonal928 - you have fantastic taste in watches and cameras, and have many that I would want, myself! That early 80s Omega Seamaster (don't want to be James Bond) is great, same era/design as the Omega Titane. The Doxa Subs are soooo good, and you hardly see anyone with one. Your 1680 looks like it's in great condition, are you the original owner? You even have a Ventura titanium chrono! ***!
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Thank you Archiver for the warm words. Loving and collecting watches, and we haven't talked about other good things, just like photography and cameras, is something that has been going on for me since I was 5 years old. Only, unlike cameras, watches cost a fortune. And again, to my good fortune I have been able to collect and keep with myself almost every camera and watch over the years. So yes, the orange Doxa 5000T is my everyday watch. While the rest I wear from time to time. My Holly Grille watch, of course, is the Rolex 1680 - a watch that has been with me for the last thirty years. It's nice to know that you've noticed the Ventura v matic chronograph watch.
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The story of a watch

1984 Navitimer Chronomat - the first Chronograph of the new Breitling under the hands of the late Ernest Schneider. About 400 units were produced, which were on display at the Basel watch show, and were immediately purchased by interested customers. Later, the Navitimer logo was removed, and the watch with a few design changes became the familiar Breitling Chronomat.




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As much as I am a camera nerd, I'm even more a watch nerd... I spend way too much time reading and learning about watches.
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Two pictures - the same wrist watch I got for my wedding.

First picture - Twenty-five years ago with an omega speedmaster watch on my arm.





Second image - the same watch, this time on a tough and reliable camera.



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Something about camera guys, watch guys and I think motorcycle guys. There's quite some overlap.

With watches, I'm about like I am in cameras. Though with watches, I did try Rolex a couple times; just not worth the money. With cameras, it the same, for me. I tried a Leica (borrowed) didn't like it. Rather have some nice Japanese ones, which are equal in quality, lower in prestige and better in value.

My favorite watches are low-mid level Seiko mechanicals and some mid-level Swiss or German by Limes, Hamilton and Tissot.

As for spotting them in the wild, whether it's a camera or a watch, they need to hold still and from a certain angle.

Submariners are harder to recognize, because they're the most copied watch design of all time. One has to get close enough to see the coronet, and even then, one can't be sure, as they're also probably the most counterfeited watch of all time.
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I love your watches but can attest to the fact that this model is large and heavy to wear. So I only wear mine now and then, when I feel in the mood. And I have to confess up front - mine is a "homage" watch - not exactly a fake as it is not labelled Panerei or Luminor tho' its design is classically so and unmistakable. Visually its fit and finish is very good though no doubt it suffers greatly by comparison with the real thing both in terms of the fineness of its finish and of the quality of the movement.

I must say I especially like your black model Luminor. From the fact that mine is a copy watch it can be discerned that I am not so addicted to watches as I am to cameras and lenses - the latter in particular. But there is something special about classic watch designs (as with the best classic camera and lens designs). I do however own an original Schaffhausen IWC from the 1960's (my fathers watch and a kind of entry level drug for those more afflicted than I am to the classic watch drug). The IWC is this model but of slightly later vintage. And beautiful it is too.

https://daisyexclusive.com/collectio...-89-circa-1947
I've been wearing the PVD black model since 2001 and after a short time. You don't even feel the weight. Dropping down to a lighter weight 40 mm watch feels like wearing nothing at all.

IWC is a very good brand. Think I owned about a dozen of those. Manual, automatic, gold and steel. Very classic watches

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1984 Navitimer Chronomat - the first Chronograph of the new Breitling under the hands of the late Ernest Schneider...
Very nice collection! Nicely choreographed photos, all of them.

Of the Breitling watches, not the one you show, I have always disliked their highly cluttered dials and claim to aviator preference. In my experience, pilots like their watches simple and easy to read, just like their instruments.
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In 2003 I bought my Rolex Submariner No-Date. The AOL Time Warner skyscrapper had just opened and they had a Tourneou right near the entrance.

When I walked in a young salesman asked me if I needed any help and I asked if they had a Stainless steel Submariner. Not only did they have a SS Sub, but it was a "No-Date." Pretty much Rolex would rather sell $25K gold versions of the sub, so they limit the amount of SS versions.

So to annoy people I call my No-Date my "cheap Rollex." LOL.

The salesman tells me that there is a special promotion, and he explains they have an offer of Zero APR for 24 months to pay for the watch. It was a no brainer to buy the watch so I went to buy it.

A short while later a Manager comes from the back with the new salesman in tow. I could tell that something was wrong, and the Manager tells me that the special promotion does not include Rolex.

When I first put on the Rolex I could feel a powerful surge, and a sense of elevated power. In the past I was a performance artist, but I could feel a transition happening, as if the "Bankster" blood from my mother's side of the family got suddenly activated.

I was really disappointed. The Manager sensed my disappointment and said, "The promotion applies to all other watches we carry, but since there was a mistake we could make an exception."

"I'll take it then," I said, but evidently my response came to the Manager as a surprise, he basically thought I would be polite and eccuse the kind offer, but the aggressive bankster came out.

Effectively I mugged the Store Manager for his Rolex. He really did not want to give it up.

Even though I had 24 months, I paid off the Rolex in a year, because I went back to see if the 24 month zero APR offer still survived. On Wall Street they say when there are good deals "load up the truck." I used my tax return to pay off the balance.

I bought my gal a Cartier, then I bought myself a Panerai GMT 8-day, then my gal another Cartier. All four watches zero APR for 24 months.

Also know that this zero APR taught me a lot about hard assets and led me to Leica in 2007. I took a zero APR convenience check from a credit card company and opened a margin account at Scottrade.

Effectively I swing traded energy stocks against hedge funds. I gamed the market for 4 years until oil hit $135.00 a barrel and then closed my margin account. Later that day after oil hit $147.00 a barrel there began the "blow-off top; the credit crisis; and then the housing crisis.

Pretty much the only difference between a hedge fund and what I was doing was a "zero," where Hedge funds used 30-1 margin and I was limited to only 3-1 margin.

In 2007, during the credit crisis, I was sitting on cash. I started buying treasures that seemed everybody was selling at depressed prices to raise cash.

I bought a 35 Cron V.4 and 75 Lux V.2, both made in Germany (being made in Germany commands about a $100.00 premium), both in minty condition, for no-money.

It would be about a year later that I bought a Wetzlar M6 prototype to be able to shoot with the glass I purchase over a year earlier. Before all this I use to be a one camera guy, and my only camera was a Nikon F3P.

Moral of the story is never underestimate the power of an expensive watch. Also know the Wall Street ritual: with your first bonus after Grad school (MBA) go out and buy a Rolex Sub.

Also know that the Cartier's are like "get out of jail free cards" that never expire with my girlfriend. I'm a bad boy, and somehow I get away with a lot. LOL.

Cal the "Bankster"

POSTSCRIPT: My Panerai GMT is the same watch that Bill Clinton wore when he was President. I use to say "If it's good enought for President Bill Clinton its good enough for me," but my gal corrected me and said, "It should be if its good enough for you its good enough for President Bill Clinton. You are a better man. " LOL
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I am into watches as well as fine cameras, Leica, Hassleblad, Rolleiflex, etc.


Here are a couple of watches that are easy to tell what they are.


One was a X-mas gift when I was in high school and they other I bought new in early 80's
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