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Since we are defining street shots of strangers as portraits for purposes of this thread, I have to drag out one of my old favorites.

Thank you Bob, yes why not. Many paintings in the museums are portraits of not identified people. Nevertheless these can be great portraits. What's in a name?


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Yudith, my Cuban ex-girlfriend is now deceased but I remain friends with her family. I usually had my camera when we were together and never passed on an opportunity for a photo when the light and background was right.

This was making a rest stop traveling through the mountains between Baracoa and Santiago de Cuba.



This was spending some time in Las Terrazas, a government showplace eco community between Havana and Vinales.
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Emily is my "sort of" stepdaughter in Cuba. Her mother, Yudith, from previous photos here was my ex-girlfriend who later died. I am proud of Emily as she is a student at the University of Havana majoring in Economics and already having a degree in English. She supports herself and her grandmother with a regular job plus working as a photo location guide and model when I can send the right people her way.

We were just having lunch beside the open window.



We were on a family vacation at Jibacoa beach when I asked her to just hang on the pole. She has never had a modeling lesson but a lot of poise and self confidence.
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My sister and her new Irish daughter

My sister found herself pregnant while in high school back in 1961. My parents sent her off to a Catholic home for unwed mothers in Ireland where she gave birth to a daughter, gave her up for adoption, and returned to the US with no one, even me, knowing anything.

Several years ago they were able to connect as they had been searching for each other for many years. So now my sister has a new Irish daughter and we all have a great new family member. This photo was in Cork, Ireland.


My new niece center, her mother who raised her on the left, and her biological mother, my sister, on the right. This photo was in Dublin, Ireland.
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New meaning to what a portrait is!

Anything goes, yes? No? Maybe so?

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There is no definition of the word "portrait". See the famous portrait of Gandhi by Cartier-Bresson. On this portrait you see Gandhi's back from a distance of about ten meters, not his face. Could not be used for a passport photo. Nevertheless it is a great portrait.

A portrait can also be a picture on wich the person himself can not be seen, for instance a picture of the the M2 that was used by Nick Ut.

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There is no definition of the word "portrait". See the famous portrait of Gandhi by Cartier-Bresson. On this portrait you see Gandhi's back from a distance of about ten meters, not his face. Could not be used for a passport photo. Nevertheless it is a great portrait.

A portrait can also be a picture on wich the person himself can not be seen, for instance a picture of the the M2 that was used by Nick Ut.

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There is no definition of the word "portrait". ......
I respectfully have to disagree. Like all artistic definitions it is broad but certainly not all images of people are portraits. Artistic educational materials and common usage gives us some characteristics that classify what is and what is not. My quick take is there are some commonly accepted characteristics.

* A portrait is an image whose specific purpose is to convey information about an individual or individuals. Not their environment, not their clothing, not some specific object in the image, but them.

* There is some level of agreement and cooperation between the subject and the artist. This can be momentary but the subject must be aware.

My comment should not be construed as anything negative about the images in this thread. Only that some of them may not fit the definition of "portraits". But I love this thread because it gets members thinking about photos of people.
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A great essay on the subject in British Journal Of Aesthetics
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1093/aesthj/ayv018

One could think that it is over-restrictive to use the phrase for only a specification of an image of a person.
But then one could think it is instead an oversimplification to use it for every image of a being.

That said, I agree with the open interpretation of the word, and also its' metaphorical extensions, like Erik suggested.
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* A portrait is an image whose specific purpose is to convey information about an individual or individuals. Not their environment, not their clothing, not some specific object in the image, but them.

* There is some level of agreement and cooperation between the subject and the artist. This can be momentary but the subject must be aware.

With the first suggestion I agree fully, but with the second absolutely not. I am sure that you can make very good portraits of people that are not aware of being portrayed, not only on photographs, but also sculpted or painted. Many examples prove this.


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With the first suggestion I agree fully, but with the second absolutely not. I am sure that you can make very good portraits of people that are not aware of being portrayed, not only on photographs, but also sculpted or painted. Many examples prove this.
Erik: you certainly are entitled to your own opinions regarding a definition of "portrait". But it is commonly accepted in artistic academic teachings and environments that the most common differentiator between a "portrait" and a "street shot" is the connection between the subject and the artist.

We do totally agree that "good work" lies in the eye of the viewer and labels or definitions are not that important. Unless you are turning in homework for a portrait class where you could be told that your work, while creative, was not the assignment given you.
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I often find that people in cafes, restaurants and at work make interesting candid portrait subjects.

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I often find that people in cafes, restaurants and at work make interesting candid portrait subjects.
I do as well.

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I love this one, Peter! Modigliani is one of my favorite painters.

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