Tetenal is No More
Old 01-30-2019   #1
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Tetenal is No More

After 172 years, Tetenal has closed down. The film resurgence was not enough to keep this photographic chemical manufacturer in business.


http://www.worldofphoto.com/meldung2.php?NID=30131857


Tetenal made all of Kodak's and Ilford's chemicals so there must be some serious scrambling going on now. Stock up while you can.
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Old 01-30-2019   #2
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After 172 years, Tetenal has closed down. The film resurgence was not enough to keep this photographic chemical manufacturer in business.
And again: You don't know what you are talking about. You don't have the slightest knowledge of the industry.
Tetenal has been a very diversified company with many different product groups. Lots of them in the digital imaging business. And mainly these digital product groups have caused severe problems in the past! The production of photo chemistry was not their problem. The decreasing demand in digital broke their neck.

And so far the final word is not said yet whether after a split-off the photo chemistry production can be continued. We have to wait and see.
But even if not: There are enough other competent manufacturers to fill the gap. There is absolutely no need to worry.

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Tetenal made all of Kodak's and Ilford's chemicals so there must be some serious scrambling going on now. Stock up while you can.
No need to. The dealers all have stocked up to ship enough to customers for short- and midterm. And as said above, there are enough players in the market to fill the gaps, like e.g. Adox, Spur, Moersch, Fujifilm, Bellini, Calbe, CPAC.

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And again: You don't know what you are talking about. You don't have the slightest knowledge of the industry.
Tetenal has been a very diversified company with many different product groups. Lots of them in the digital imaging business. And mainly these digital product groups have caused severe problems in the past! The production of photo chemistry was not their problem. The decreasing demand in digital broke their neck.

And so far the final word is not said yet whether after a split-off the photo chemistry production can be continued. We have to wait and see.
But even if not: There are enough other competent manufacturers to fill the gap. There is absolutely no need to worry.



No need to. The dealers all have stocked up to ship enough to customers for short- and midterm. And as said above, there are enough players in the market to fill the gaps, like e.g. Adox, Spur, Moersch, Fujifilm, Bellini, Calbe, CPAC.

Cheers, Jan

You are incorrect. If one wants, for example, Kodak HC-110, no one else is making that now. It will take a substantial amount of effort to introduce a new production facility for the various products Tetenal makes. It is not a trivial process. The chance for shortages is more than likely if Tetenal has insufficient stock.
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Freestyle offers a HC-110 equivalent.

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No need to. The dealers all have stocked up to ship enough to customers for short- and midterm. And as said above, there are enough players in the market to fill the gaps, like e.g. Adox, Spur, Moersch, Fujifilm, Bellini, Calbe, CPAC.

Cheers, Jan

Mirko or Adox/Fotoimpex mentioned that Tetenal is/was twice the size of Harman! That's over at APUG and the quote might have been picked by Emulsive (the writer posted after him asking for permission to quote).
Concerning E6 he said Adox can manufacture it but given that Tetenal had the space they did not find a reason why. Another insight is that the liquidation/split might not be entirely bad for the chemical arm of the company.


Curiously enough I'll soon need some HC110. Prior to Tetenal, Champion made Kodak chemistry. From what I read they also supplied other brands.
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I only know c-41 1L kit from Telenal, for real.
And it has alternatives
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Sign of the times.

I use Arista only for Ilfords XP2 Plus.
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let's keep calm until everything is clear - it's still evolving.
No need for premature conclusions

PhotoKlassik International postet this 6 hrs ago:

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There may be new developments from Tetenal.......

Stay tuned!
further:
  • "... good developments ? is there still hope ?"
    they answer "fingers crossed!"
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  • "Someone must see the potential of the future of a re-start in a smaller construction. There are so many people needing their products. It will be profitable."
    answer: "Totally right! Please wait until we get the 100% confirmation!"

SOURCE

so ... I suggest: Keep calm & shoot some film ; )



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and ... 5 mins ago:

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"Tetenal New Hope!

Here the German Press release: We are translating it in English!!!

Tetenal: Mitarbeiter wollen bewährte Produkte erhalten

Nach der Entscheidung, die Tetenal Europe GmbH abzuwickeln, wollen Mitarbeiter des Traditonsunternehmens ihre bereits Ende 2018 begonnene Initiative fortsetzen, ein Konzept zu erarbeiten, wie trotz der Liquidation des Unternehmens künftig in eigener Regie bewährte Tetenal-Produkte erhalten oder auch neue Produkte entwickelt werden können. Das geht aus einer Pressemitteilung des Insolvenzverwalters, White & Case Partner Dr. Sven-Holger Undritz, hervor.

„Wenn es den Mitarbeitern gelingt, ihre Ideen in die Tat umzusetzen, kann aus dem Insolvenzverfahren doch noch ein Neuanfang für Tetenal erfolgen”, erklärte Undritz. „Das würde mich sehr freuen!”

Bisher habe der Geschäftsbetrieb dank des tatkräftigen Engagements der Mitarbeiter und der Treue der Stammkunden uneingeschränkt fortgeführt werden können, fügte Undritz hinzu."
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English translation from Google Translate (faster than doing this myself):

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"Tetenal: Employees want to preserve proven products

Following the decision to to disolve Tetenal Europe GmbH, employees of the traditional company want to continue their initiative, which was initiated at the end of 2018, to develop a concept for how, in spite of the liquidation of the company, Tetenal products can be successfully provided on their own or new products can be developed. This is from a press release of the insolvency administrator, White & Case Partner Sven-Holger Undritz, forth.

"If the employees succeed in putting their ideas into action, the insolvency proceedings can still give Tetenal a fresh start," explained Undritz. "I would be happy!"

So far, business operations have continued unrestrictedly, thanks to the dedication of employees and the loyalty of regular customers, added Undritz."

: )

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Freestyle offers a HC-110 equivalent.

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Who makes the Freestyle product?
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Freestyle offers a HC-110 equivalent.

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I think the use of the word equivalent is overstated. Are all the developing times and dilutions the same? Ilford also makes an HC-110 like product but the developing times are not the same.


If one is looking for Kodak's proprietary formula for HC-110, they need to source it from Kodak, who has it made, or I should say, had it made by Tetenal.
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Too bad but as mentioned, there are still plenty of suppliers and if we have to, we can mix most photo chemistry at home.

I wonder if they've still had the same terrible, quickly disintegrating paper caskets in the bottle caps until now? Very bad choice of materials that has had me avoid their products.
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Old 01-30-2019   #13
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who has it made, or I should say, had it made by Tetenal.
or should we say "... and who will hopefully continue to make it ..."
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You are incorrect. If one wants, for example, Kodak HC-110, no one else is making that now. It will take a substantial amount of effort to introduce a new production facility for the various products Tetenal makes. It is not a trivial process. The chance for shortages is more than likely if Tetenal has insufficient stock.
All wrong.
Tetenal has produced photo chemistry in the last months at full speed. The distributors have stocked up.

Ilford Ilfotec LC is an HC-110 equivalent (just the concentration is a bit different, but not the chemical formula).
The formulas of all Kodak and Ilford developers are well known and documented. Each photo chemistry manufacturer can make them. Some even do already, like Foma with Excel (=XTOL).
During the Ilford insolvency in 2004/2005 e.g. Moersch made Perceptol (MicrodolX). Moersch is a one-man company.

Film production is "rocket science".
But photo chemistry production is not. Even one-man companies can make excellent photo chemistry. Several high-quality photo chemistry manufacturers are 1-2 man companies.

And there is even a new bigger photo chemistry manufacturer: Adox.

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All wrong.
Tetenal has produced photo chemistry in the last months at full speed. The distributors have stocked up.

Ilford Ilfotec LC is an HC-110 equivalent (just the concentration is a bit different, but not the chemical formula).
The formulas of all Kodak and Ilford developers are well known and documented. Each photo chemistry manufacturer can make them. Some even do already, like Foma with Excel (=XTOL).
During the Ilford insolvency in 2004/2005 e.g. Moersch made Perceptol (MicrodolX). Moersch is a one-man company.

Film production is "rocket science".
But photo chemistry production is not. Even one-man companies can make excellent photo chemistry. Several high-quality photo chemistry manufacturers are 1-2 man companies.

And there is even a new bigger photo chemistry manufacturer: Adox.

Cheers, Jan

Kodak HC-110 is a formula owned by Kodak. No one is making it without their permission.


Even the most casual inspection can demonstrate that Ilford HC is NOT the same as Kodak's HC-110. The viscosity of the concentrate is significantly different.
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Who makes the Freestyle product?
Probably the same folks which make their Microdol-X equivalent, which Kodak discontinued ages ago.

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Ilford Ilfotec LC is an HC-110 equivalent (just the concentration is a bit different, but not the chemical formula).

You are incorrect.



Examine the MSDS for each product. There you will see significant differences in the ingredients listed. The materials disclosed on the MSDS are there because the law states that they must appear. One can infer that if a material is not listed on the MSDS, then it is not in the formula.


Ilfortec HC is NOT the same as Kodak HC-110.
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Kodak HC-110 is a formula owned by Kodak. No one is making it without their permission.
There are still a few mfg. so Kodak just has to change their partner and we have HC110 again.

I would wait a bit before spelling doom and gloom or saying that everything is ok. This is just the beginning.
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Mirko or Adox/Fotoimpex mentioned that Tetenal is/was twice the size of Harman! That's over at APUG and the quote might have been picked by Emulsive (the writer posted after him asking for permission to quote).
That is correct. But as I've written above, Tetenal has been a very diversified company with lots of different product groups. Photo chemistry has been only one of several.

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Concerning E6 he said Adox can manufacture it but given that Tetenal had the space they did not find a reason why. Another insight is that the liquidation/split might not be entirely bad for the chemical arm of the company.
There is no problem with E6 chemistry: Fujifilm is the biggest E6 manufacturer and delivers the chemistry both for professional labs and home-processing kits.
With Bellini there is also a second manufacturer.

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Curiously enough I'll soon need some HC110. Prior to Tetenal, Champion made Kodak chemistry. From what I read they also supplied other brands.
Correct. Champion also deliverd to Ilford in the past. Maybe they jump in again. There are rumors that Kodak and Ilford only changed to Tetenal because of higher margins. But, that are only rumors, not confirmed.

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Ilfortec HC is NOT the same as Kodak HC-110.
Have you used both and compared the results? No, you have not!
But I have.
The formulas and results are so similar that you get identical results which cannot be distinguished!!! Make a blind test, and you will see.
Again you are demonstrating your completre lack of knowledge.

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Have you used both and compared the results? No, you have not!
But I have.
The formulas and results are so similar that you get identical results which cannot be distinguished!!! Make a blind test, and you will see.
Again you are demonstrating your completre lack of knowledge.

Cheers, Jan

You stated that the formulations are the same. I proved that they are not.



It is you who have the complete lack of knowledge. You make incorrect statements that are demonstrably false.


Check your facts before making claims. That will help you in future.
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There are still a few mfg. so Kodak just has to change their partner and we have HC110 again.

I would wait a bit before spelling doom and gloom or saying that everything is ok. This is just the beginning.

You are spelling doom and gloom, not me.


I merely pointed out the facts. Tetenal is insolvent. It may be that some shortages of materials appear during turbulent times such as this. Given that, stocking up on favorite chemicals would not be unwise.
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This is the Post by Mirko I referred to earlier:

https://www.photrio.com/forum/thread...7#post-2149388


By the recent posts here and there, seems like a management buyout is ongoing.

http://new-tetenal.de/



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The formulas of all Kodak and Ilford developers are well known and documented. Each photo chemistry manufacturer can make them. Some even do already, like Foma with Excel (=XTOL).
During the Ilford insolvency in 2004/2005 e.g. Moersch made Perceptol (MicrodolX). Moersch is a one-man company.

OT but XTOL / Fomadon Excel W27 is an interesting case. I haven't seen direct and very solid comparisons but it seems quite equivalent, some say XTOL is a bit finer grained but that's anecdotical.



Fomadon comes in 1L packs which is great. IIRC XTOL had some failure issue with small packs and haven't known anything since. XTOL in Europe seems to be only in 5L!
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Check your facts before making claims. That will help you in future.
Nonsense.
The differences are so tiny that they are absolutely negligible. You cannot distinguish the results!
The same is valid for D76/ID11 and XTOL/EXCEL.
For a photographer it is absolutely equal.

But you don't have any interest in photography, but only in splitting hairs and doom and gloom posts. You have behaved that way as Ratty Mouse on photrio, and you are doing the same here.

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After 172 years, Tetenal has closed down. The film resurgence was not enough to keep this photographic chemical manufacturer in business.


http://www.worldofphoto.com/meldung2.php?NID=30131857


Tetenal made all of Kodak's and Ilford's chemicals so there must be some serious scrambling going on now. Stock up while you can.
If you need chems, buy them. If you don't need them, don't. No need for panic stocking like when Acros fizzled and everyone went bananas. As others have said, chemistry is not as complex as film; If Tetenal stops production someone else will pick it up. No worries.
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If you need chems, buy them.

My point exactly. Thank you.

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If you don't need them, don't. No need for panic stocking like when Acros fizzled and everyone went bananas. As others have said, chemistry is not as complex as film; If Tetenal stops production someone else will pick it up. No worries.

If you need a chemical, you need it. No one is saying that any of these products are going to disappear forever. But there may be a supply disruption and that can cause people problems. It's prudent to note potential disruptions and to take appropriate actions to mitigate such.


The chemical industry is full of supply disruptions that appear out of nowhere. These disruptions have real impacts when they occur.
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Tetenal UK is independant of Tetenal Germany. The employees will be buying Tetenal Germany and move forward.



Photosys in Michigan makes chemisty in the US, as an FYI.
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Nonsense.
The differences are so tiny that they are absolutely negligible. You cannot distinguish the results!
The same is valid for D76/ID11 and XTOL/EXCEL.
For a photographer it is absolutely equal.

But you don't have any interest in photography, but only in splitting hairs and doom and gloom posts. You have behaved that way as Ratty Mouse on photrio, and you are doing the same here.

Cheers, Jan

LOL. More personal attacks. Not only that, completely unfounded. I have EIGHT binders of negatives shot in the past 6 years. Well over 1000 rolls of film shot, mostly developed by Kodak HC-110.


Your ridiculous statement that I have no interest in photography shows how utterly bankrupt a position you hold. If you had a shred of decency, you'd apologize for such liable.


Would someone who has no interest in photography own a Fujifilm GF670, GF670W, GA645, TX-1 w all 3 lenses? I own them all, along with a Nikon FM2n and Canon 1V with thousands of dollars worth of lenses for those two cameras.



That's well over $8,000 in spending on camera equipment.


Further I have hundreds upon hundreds of rolls of film in my freezer. $800 worth of Acros alone.


You have nothing to offer other than personal attacks.


Nothing I have said to you or ANYONE can be remotely considered a personal attack.


If only you could say the same.
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My point exactly. Thank you.




If you need a chemical, you need it. No one is saying that any of these products are going to disappear forever. But there may be a supply disruption and that can cause people problems. It's prudent to note potential disruptions and to take appropriate actions to mitigate such.


The chemical industry is full of supply disruptions that appear out of nowhere. These disruptions have real impacts when they occur.
Looks like Hogarth's suggestion of Photosys may have a solution right now. I won't be stockpiling anything.
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Photosys in Michigan makes chemisty in the US, as an FYI.

Very interesting. Why are they not more well known?
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Looks like Hogarth's suggestion of Photosys may have a solution right now. I won't be stockpiling anything.

Again, if you want a specific formulation, Photosys isnt going to be making that any time soon, if at all. They have their own product line that offers something unique to their formulae.
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Again, if you want a specific formulation, Photosys isnt going to be making that any time soon, if at all. They have their own product line that offers something unique to their formulae.
I don't require a specific formulation of C41 chemistry, so stockpiling isn't necessary. I'll be happy to give Photosys a try (for C41 and E6) now that I know they're "local". I see prices but no way to purchase directly from their web site. I'll be happy to give them a call and figure it out when the time comes. It's curious that they're conducting business but apparently not well promoted. If I would have known about them earlier I would have given them a try by now.
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I’m gonna come out and say it,

Edit: The two members who can’t seem to get along need to bury the damn hatchet.

I find it incredibly frustrating.

As for Tetenal, I hope they find a way!
I’ll be interested to hear more as this develops


I have some Photosys Universal Dev. I’m planning to try after I use up the rest of my Arista.
It’s a Michigan company! Of course I need to support them!
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Well, it's a good thing HC-110 is so long lasting. I have one unopened bottle of the US concentrate and one that has about 75% left so I'm set for a while. Might pick up another bottle from Freestyle anyway.
Wonder if this news will cause a run on it?
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I’m gonna come out and say it,

Edit: The two members who can’t seem to get along need to bury the damn hatchet.

I find it incredibly frustrating.

As for Tetenal, I hope they find a way!
I’ll be interested to hear more as this develops


I have some Photosys Universal Dev. I’m planning to try after I use up the rest of my Arista.
It’s a Michigan company! Of course I need to support them!
You dont see me launching personal attacks against anyone. You dont see me spouting ridiculous lies against other members. My post cannot in any way be viewed as an attack against this person. He has his own vendetta. It doesnt matter what I say.

Agreed, it is very very tiresome.
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Well, it's a good thing HC-110 is so long lasting. I have one unopened bottle of the US concentrate and one that has about 75% left so I'm set for a while. Might pick up another bottle from Freestyle anyway.
Wonder if this news will cause a run on it?
I'm going to grab another bottle as I'm down to the last few mls of my own supply.
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I don't require a specific formulation of C41 chemistry, so stockpiling isn't necessary. I'll be happy to give Photosys a try (for C41 and E6) now that I know they're "local". I see prices but no way to purchase directly from their web site. I'll be happy to give them a call and figure it out when the time comes. It's curious that they're conducting business but apparently not well promoted. If I would have known about them earlier I would have given them a try by now.
Yes, I find it somewhat amazing to just learn of this company's existence. They really fly under the radar.
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Old 01-30-2019   #39
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You dont see me launching personal attacks against anyone. You dont see me spouting ridiculous lies against other members. My post cannot in any way be viewed as an attack against this person. He has his own vendetta. It doesnt matter what I say.

Agreed, it is very very tiresome.
Ted, ide ignore said member. Clearly their motivation is disruptive.

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Just to bolster what I said earlier, the scare tactics and survivalist mentality might want to be put on hold, for now.
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