Thardy
Mentor
What is the advantage or disadvantage of the .85 viewfinder. I've seen a few around on M6s and I'm thinking of buying one. BTW I wear glasses, does that matter?
Thanks
Thanks
mr_phillip
Well-known
The .85 finder gives greater focusing accuracy by resulting in a long effective rangefinder baselength. However, it drops the 28mm lines from the finder and moves the 35mm ones to the very edge of visibility. If you wear glasses and ever plan to shoot with a 35mm lens then the .85 isn't a great choice, but if you only ever intend to shoot at 50mm or longer then it'll be fine.
pfoto
Well-known
I use a 0.85x MP for any lens of 50mm or greater focal length. The increased magnification is very useful for focusing accuracy, particularly the 50/1.0 and 90/2.0. I would not recommend it as a single body unless you only shoot 50mm or longer lenses, particularly since you wear spectacles.
mfogiel
Mentor
Thardy
I have an M7 x 0.85 and I wear glasses - the slim type to boot. Yet, I am unable to see the 35mm frames without heavy hunting with the eye. This camera is my dedicated 50 mm body for interiors. The 75mm frames are very useable, while the 90 and 135mm frankly are a misunderstanding, but this is a fact of life with all rangefinders.
The biggest problem of this VF, is that the 50 and 75mm - the 2 most useful and usable frames, are shown together, for a very messy view. This is just another wonderful arteriosclerotic invention from Leica's heritage. Therefore, if you want a Leica, and you want a decent view with a 50mm, you better get an M3 with the 1.0 VF - I tried it, and you can see the frames in an acceptable manner.
I don't want to repeat myself too much, as someone has accused me of being a Zeiss employee in disguise, but for a glass wearer, the Zeiss Ikon is a much better tool.
I have an M7 x 0.85 and I wear glasses - the slim type to boot. Yet, I am unable to see the 35mm frames without heavy hunting with the eye. This camera is my dedicated 50 mm body for interiors. The 75mm frames are very useable, while the 90 and 135mm frankly are a misunderstanding, but this is a fact of life with all rangefinders.
The biggest problem of this VF, is that the 50 and 75mm - the 2 most useful and usable frames, are shown together, for a very messy view. This is just another wonderful arteriosclerotic invention from Leica's heritage. Therefore, if you want a Leica, and you want a decent view with a 50mm, you better get an M3 with the 1.0 VF - I tried it, and you can see the frames in an acceptable manner.
I don't want to repeat myself too much, as someone has accused me of being a Zeiss employee in disguise, but for a glass wearer, the Zeiss Ikon is a much better tool.
cmogi10
Bodhisattva
I knew when I saw you were the last poster in this thread that it would mention how the Ikon is better.
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swoop
Well-known
I have a .85 M7. But I don't wear glasses. I love the thing. I'm considering selling my M8 to help fund a backup .85 M7 or even an a la carte. It's the most amazing combination. I occasionally use a 35mm on it and it works well for me. And every so often a 25mm lens with an external viewfinder.
waileong
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1. The advantages are described on the Leica website. It's bigger, hence more accurate.
2. The disadvantages are not described totally. The one that they didn't mention is that it flares more.
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Thardy said:
1. The advantages are described on the Leica website. It's bigger, hence more accurate.
2. The disadvantages are not described totally. The one that they didn't mention is that it flares more.
x-ray
Mentor
I have two .85 MP's and one .72 MP and M6. Never seen the ,85's flare any more then the .72 MP and I frequently shoot under conditions that cause major flare in the M6 .72.
I don't wear glasses and have no problem with the 35mm frame on the .85's but I could see where glasses would be a real problem.
I particularlt loce the .85's because one of my main lenses is the 75 summilux that I shoot at wide apertures and close range.
I don't wear glasses and have no problem with the 35mm frame on the .85's but I could see where glasses would be a real problem.
I particularlt loce the .85's because one of my main lenses is the 75 summilux that I shoot at wide apertures and close range.
Cron
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I use a 0.85x MP for any lens of 50mm or greater focal length. The increased magnification is very useful for focusing accuracy, particularly the 50/1.0 and 90/2.0. I would not recommend it as a single body unless you only shoot 50mm or longer lenses, particularly since you wear spectacles.
I fully agree with pfoto as I wear glasses and use both - o.85 with 50/75/90 (esp. when using wide apertures) and o.72 with 35. I have problems to see the frame when using the 35 with the 0.85
I fully agree with pfoto as I wear glasses and use both - o.85 with 50/75/90 (esp. when using wide apertures) and o.72 with 35. I have problems to see the frame when using the 35 with the 0.85
BillP
Rangefinder General
I wear spectacles. I have no problem with the 35mm framelines on my M7 .85. I have also used it with a 28mm without a viewfinder, using the very edges to frame.
Regards,
Bill
Regards,
Bill