Vickko
Mentor
My reasons:
- 1/8000 sec
- get to shoot telephotos with my M8 - 135mm = 180mm
- sentimental
...any other reasons?
Vick
- 1/8000 sec
- get to shoot telephotos with my M8 - 135mm = 180mm
- sentimental
...any other reasons?
Vick
Vickko
Mentor
The faster speed is good, when I'm using f1.1 or f1.0 at full aperture during daytime.
In case you have to send the M9 to Leica NJ for repair for 3 months?
Ben Z
Mentor
I couldn't find any reasons to keep mine, so I didn't 
Shooting the two cameras together required a lot of annoying mental gearchanging due to the differing crop factors. That and the fact my M8 was out of warranty and to repair something major could cost half the camera's resale value. BTW my M8 had been upgraded so no 1/8000 (not that I ever used it prior), it's the same pixel density to crop an M9/135mm shot as to shoot in on an M8, and I can afford to be sentimental about keeping a camera, or keep it as a backup, as long as it isn't worth more than about $200.
Shooting the two cameras together required a lot of annoying mental gearchanging due to the differing crop factors. That and the fact my M8 was out of warranty and to repair something major could cost half the camera's resale value. BTW my M8 had been upgraded so no 1/8000 (not that I ever used it prior), it's the same pixel density to crop an M9/135mm shot as to shoot in on an M8, and I can afford to be sentimental about keeping a camera, or keep it as a backup, as long as it isn't worth more than about $200.
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Nikon Bob
Guest
That is a weak one as ND filters might be a better answer when using full aperature during daytime. Over all I see no reason to keep an M8 if you have an M9 unless it is just a backup incase the M9 dies.
Bob
I'm not so sure... a ND filter on top of a the IR/UV Cut filter sounds annoying compared to just using 1/8000th of a second.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Maybe turn it into an IR-only camera?
A lot of DSLR shooters have a body that is only for digital IR.
You'll be the first to set the trend in the RF world
NickTrop
Mentor
Only one reason - a back-up? An M8 is a pretty pricey back-up camera... Makes sense if you want to keep using your lenses on your back-up camera, but there are other solutions that will cover your stated needs at much lower "back-up" prices. Also, a back-up camea is something you'll take out on a boat on a fishing trip and not worry about it. I don't think I would have such a carefree state of mind in such a scenario with an M8 - even if I also owned an M9.
GSNfan
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It took a few days for a very good condition M8 to sell for $1777 in the classified section. That is already on par with prices of a clean and good condition M6. Whats next? $1500 used M8s by summer?
I would sell it, the mental struggle in the face of market reality and functionality is too much of a waste in time and mental energy. Had M8 been known for its reliability, it could have been a good backup, but its checkered history makes it a less than dependable camera.
I would sell it, the mental struggle in the face of market reality and functionality is too much of a waste in time and mental energy. Had M8 been known for its reliability, it could have been a good backup, but its checkered history makes it a less than dependable camera.
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Nikon Bob
Guest
Sorry, I was thinking of using an ND on the M9 not M8. No reason to keep the M8 for that one extra stop of shutter speed over the M9 just to be able to shoot wide open in daylight when you can use an ND filter on the 9. Yea, I would agree that an ND on top of IR/UV filter on an M8 sounds like a can of worms.
Bob
ramosa
B&W
If I had an M9, I would only keep an M8 to use as a back up. (That said, I'm happy with my M8.)
Ah, I see... that makes sense for sure.
Olsen
Well-known
I have just bought a 2.hand M9. It turns out that it has 'run' for 6442 exposures, - in three months. My 'old' M8, however, has only done 5417 exposures in the fours years I have had it.
Yes, so why not just keep the M8? At least, I have no panic selling it.
Yes, so why not just keep the M8? At least, I have no panic selling it.
usayit
Well-known
* Because its worth more to me than the $$$ I could get for it on the used market.
* Its the closest camera to the M9 (operational wise/batteries) other than another M9
* 1/8000 shutter is nice to have.
It serves as a second camera (with second focal length) as well as a backup to the M9. I used to have an R-D1 as a backup to the M8. Worked fine except the whole "mental switch" when using both cameras together was bothering me along with different workflows and batteries.
* Its the closest camera to the M9 (operational wise/batteries) other than another M9
* 1/8000 shutter is nice to have.
It serves as a second camera (with second focal length) as well as a backup to the M9. I used to have an R-D1 as a backup to the M8. Worked fine except the whole "mental switch" when using both cameras together was bothering me along with different workflows and batteries.
Phil_F_NM
Camera hacker
mine serves me right now as my primary camera since my M9 is at Leica getting a red pixel/line issue fixed.
So serving as a secondary camera, the M8 also gives me the benefit of another focal length without having to change lenses, built-in true infrared capability, the higher shutter speed (yes, there have been instances where just one more stop would have gotten me a shot wide-open on the M9 but oh well.)
I've thought about using the M8 as a "180mm" lens camera as well, but this only works if you use a 135 Elmarit with the eyes. The M8 doesn't have native 135mm framelines like the M9 does so since the M9 has the exact same pixel density, using a 135 Tele-Elmar or Apo-Telyt is a much better bet since these are far superior lenses than the Elmarit. If I'm going to go long on the M8, it's going to be with a Komura 200mm.
I got my M8 as a demo a year ago so it was pristine from a dealer. The wear that I've put on it in the past year does make it mine, but it also makes it look like a user camera. No brassing yet but the black coating is getting a bit thin and will probably start to brass this year. I'm sure the M9 will wear much quicker.
I like my M8 but can't wait until the M9 gets back. After that, I'll stop lusting after the thought of selling the M8 and getting a second M9.
I need to go out and take some photos...
Phil Forrest
So serving as a secondary camera, the M8 also gives me the benefit of another focal length without having to change lenses, built-in true infrared capability, the higher shutter speed (yes, there have been instances where just one more stop would have gotten me a shot wide-open on the M9 but oh well.)
I've thought about using the M8 as a "180mm" lens camera as well, but this only works if you use a 135 Elmarit with the eyes. The M8 doesn't have native 135mm framelines like the M9 does so since the M9 has the exact same pixel density, using a 135 Tele-Elmar or Apo-Telyt is a much better bet since these are far superior lenses than the Elmarit. If I'm going to go long on the M8, it's going to be with a Komura 200mm.
I got my M8 as a demo a year ago so it was pristine from a dealer. The wear that I've put on it in the past year does make it mine, but it also makes it look like a user camera. No brassing yet but the black coating is getting a bit thin and will probably start to brass this year. I'm sure the M9 will wear much quicker.
I like my M8 but can't wait until the M9 gets back. After that, I'll stop lusting after the thought of selling the M8 and getting a second M9.
I need to go out and take some photos...
Phil Forrest
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Neare
Well-known
Someone who owned both casually explained his reasons to me some time ago. They were that the files that each sensor produces looks different to each other with different lenses.
He mounted the same lens on each camera and took the same shot, and indeed colour was slightly different as well as how light was rendered. He explained he keeps the M8 simply because some lenses look better on it than they do on the M9.
It's also a backup.
He mounted the same lens on each camera and took the same shot, and indeed colour was slightly different as well as how light was rendered. He explained he keeps the M8 simply because some lenses look better on it than they do on the M9.
It's also a backup.
yanidel
Well-known
I have just started a 18 months world tour with my M9, yet I have a M8 at my parents home ready with a couple of lens in case something happened to it.
Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
After I got my M9 I immediately sold the M8.2 along with all of those freekin’ IR-CUT filters. I was never a happier seller.
Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
... which can also be easily adjusted in Photoshop.
Neare
Well-known
Not necessarily, he really put the emphasis on highlight clipping.
That's detail even photoshop can't give back to you.