newspaperguy
Well-known
Ted,
For easier zone focusing;
forget "metric", think "yards".
It works for me.
Rick
For easier zone focusing;
forget "metric", think "yards".
It works for me.
Rick
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Socke
Guest
Rick Beckrich said:
No, won't work. I know I'm 1.80 meters but need to look up how many feet fit into that
It is so easy with metric systems, 10mm = 1cm, 100cm = 1m, 1000m = 1 km ...
But 12 inches = foot, 3 feet = 1 yard, 5 1/2 yards = 1 rod, pole or perch, 22 yards = 1 chain, 10 chains = 1 furlong, 8 furlongs = 1 mile drive me mad!
By the way, I mass some 6 16/32th stone and stand 1 rod 5 inches
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dll927
Well-known
Aren't we all spoiled brats? We can't expect a 40-year-old Kiev, Zorki, or for that matter, Contax or Leica, to perform quite the way my Minolta Maxxum 7 does. I'm old enough to go back long, long before there was auto-focus, or auto- much of anything! In fact, I pre-date Hydra-Matic by 2 or 3 years. (I hope that doesn't cause blank stares.) Just be patient, set the shutter/aperture, focus, and presto, you will get pictures. (Remember to take off the lens cap!!)
OMG, dll, do you predate Dyna-Flo too?
Socke, the English system has come of age for the computer generation... at least in part. Within an inch, divisions are by powers of 2... 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16 etc. How modern is that? And the same with liquid measures: Gallons, half-gallons, quarts, pints, cups, down to fluid ounces (of which there are 128 to the gallon). See? Makes perfect sense in the digital world!
I don't have a hard time with metric measures at all, though, with a few near-equivalancies kept in mind. A kilometer is about .6 mile, a meter is about 1.1 yards, a cm is about 3/8 inch, an 11mm hex wrench can substitute for 7/16 inch... 3ml to the fluid ounce, a kg is about 2.2lb, not too hard.
Socke, the English system has come of age for the computer generation... at least in part. Within an inch, divisions are by powers of 2... 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16 etc. How modern is that?
And the same with liquid measures: Gallons, half-gallons, quarts, pints, cups, down to fluid ounces (of which there are 128 to the gallon). See? Makes perfect sense in the digital world!I don't have a hard time with metric measures at all, though, with a few near-equivalancies kept in mind. A kilometer is about .6 mile, a meter is about 1.1 yards, a cm is about 3/8 inch, an 11mm hex wrench can substitute for 7/16 inch... 3ml to the fluid ounce, a kg is about 2.2lb, not too hard.
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supermarcel23
Guest
Earlier vs later
Earlier vs later
Kiev are greaf cameras.
The last ones are not so well finished as the earlier ones.
My favorites are from 1947 to 1956.
I got a lot of Kievs and it seems that if you want to know what is a Contax II for half the price then get a very nice Kiev II or IIa.
Nobody seems to talk about the pressure plate of those early kievs that give better film flatness than those from the 4 series.
Have you ever been inside a Kiev IIa and a Kiev 4 ? You will see on the first Kiev some very nice parts well finished, beautiful chrome, etc... The last Kiev reminds me some chinese toys... but they work too !
Here a picture of a 1956 IIIa just for fun...
my gallery at http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/2183
Earlier vs later
Kiev are greaf cameras.
The last ones are not so well finished as the earlier ones.
My favorites are from 1947 to 1956.
I got a lot of Kievs and it seems that if you want to know what is a Contax II for half the price then get a very nice Kiev II or IIa.
Nobody seems to talk about the pressure plate of those early kievs that give better film flatness than those from the 4 series.
Have you ever been inside a Kiev IIa and a Kiev 4 ? You will see on the first Kiev some very nice parts well finished, beautiful chrome, etc... The last Kiev reminds me some chinese toys... but they work too !
Here a picture of a 1956 IIIa just for fun...
my gallery at http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/2183
pangkievrange
Established
proper way for loading film
proper way for loading film
Tedwhite,
There's a way of loading films after some practice. I use a FSU takeup spool and cut the film lead to insert into the hole with a clip inside. After alignment, I put on the back. At this point, I rotate the shutter dial and the take up spool will sit right and I'm able to close the back. Without the rotation, it's almost impossible to close the back.
Richard
proper way for loading film
Tedwhite,
There's a way of loading films after some practice. I use a FSU takeup spool and cut the film lead to insert into the hole with a clip inside. After alignment, I put on the back. At this point, I rotate the shutter dial and the take up spool will sit right and I'm able to close the back. Without the rotation, it's almost impossible to close the back.
Richard
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jdos2
Well-known
Easiest way to understand the metric system for the purpose of zone focusing is to realize that tall people are about 2 meters tall.
That's it. Figure your zone in people, end to end, and you got it. Someone standing about my height away? That's 2 meters. Focus, stop down, shoot, wind, done!
I'm just glad I weigh less than triple digit metric numbers.
You don't want to learn TOO much metric, or else you'll understand Europeans distain when we complain about $.60 per liter of fuel...
That's it. Figure your zone in people, end to end, and you got it. Someone standing about my height away? That's 2 meters. Focus, stop down, shoot, wind, done!
I'm just glad I weigh less than triple digit metric numbers.
You don't want to learn TOO much metric, or else you'll understand Europeans distain when we complain about $.60 per liter of fuel...
T
tedwhite
Guest
I've been writing all this down. I like the 16 stone and 1 rod 5 inches part.
WHAT ACTUALLY IRKS me is that CV, pandering the the metric crowd, put the metric scale in bright, easy-to-read white lettering, and the feet scale in muted, hard-to-read red.
(But I guess the "metric crowd" constitutes most of the world's other countries).
But we are making strides: No more Whitworth tools.
Well, got back first roll of Bessa L w/25/4. Sharp little lens, by golly.
Ted
WHAT ACTUALLY IRKS me is that CV, pandering the the metric crowd, put the metric scale in bright, easy-to-read white lettering, and the feet scale in muted, hard-to-read red.
(But I guess the "metric crowd" constitutes most of the world's other countries).
But we are making strides: No more Whitworth tools.
Well, got back first roll of Bessa L w/25/4. Sharp little lens, by golly.
Ted
StickyVinny
Newbie
I wish I could see all these pictures of your Kievs!
wolves3012
Mentor
O/T but...
Can we have some at that price please? Ours is currently ~£1.30, partly due to the extortionate amount of tax (and tax on that tax, even more disgracefully).
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
There is nothing else as exciting as reviving a 6 year old thread, almost.
farlymac
PF McFarland
Not gonna happen with a thread this old, Vinny. If there are no pictures, or links that are active, it's because they've been deleted somewhere along the line, or the site is no longer active. Try looking at more current stuff.
PF