Nikon F4/F5 questions

Vics said:
For truly precise framing, it's F, F2, F3, and I don't know how far into AF they went before they dumped it.
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Really? I haven't looked into the F6's but i had the impression that all F's were 100%. Well 100%, 97%, whatever. I just didn't want parallax error
 
The F4 is my favorite SLR, I still shoot it. I'm not a believer that the current G lenses are a great fit with the F4 as there is no way to adjust aperture with the body. Program modes I guess would fly. The F4 gives 100% VF with most if not all finders, and has that pop-up viewing hood available as an option for those who might not believe it is actually 100% in the prism.
 
One thing that I am unsure is the importance for MLU and I'm sure this has been beaten to death.

I use 50mm-20mm mostly at 1/60-1/15 and sometimes 1/8. I think most of my unsharp images are simply due to camera shake but I figured that using MLU would eliminate this variable. And hence the reason why I wanted a body with MLU. F2's and F3's are not too much money so getting another SLR body isn't that big of a deal.
 
I was unclear. I meant to say unsharp images come from camera shake and mirror shake. I can not distinguish the two but a good tripod and MLU will eliminate both of these variables.
 
We had four F4s at our weekly newspaper and all failed fairly early in their lives. The 8008s of the same vintage and the F5 are still alive, although more than a little ugly. For a vertical button, you could get an F3 with an MD4 motor and the firing rate converter which includes a vertical shutter button. You could also add the screw-in release for the cable socket mentioned above - it works with the MD4 on an F3 and on the MD12 on an FM2.
 
@ Michael...

Are you basing your somewhat poor opinion of the 20 f3.5 UD (quote: soft wide open ) on its performance HANDHELD at 1/15 second ?!

I also own this lens and find it very acceptably sharp in the centre wideopen and even more so all over at f8 onwards.

Try mounting your camera + UD on a tripod and photograph a newspaper pinned to a wall, exposing at a series of apertures from wideopen onwards, and be prepared to be pleasantly surprised !

Don't just take my word for the good qualities of this lens - Bjorn Rorslett and Ken Rockwell rate it highly too...

BTW, your first pic is good, the other two obviously needed more light and/or faster film and certainly a tripod and cable release (and yes, MLU would be handy ! ) if routinely using 1/15 or slower...

Keep experimenting !
 
thanks! You know, I was thinking about it...and I just want more gear.

I'm going to continue taking pictures and experimenting with monopods/tripods and maybe faster film. If anything I'm just going to get a F2 if I still desire that MLU feature. No need to get a motor drive, vertical release, autofocus lenses, faster lenses, and etc.

I'm sure that the F3, F4, F5, and F6 are great as well as the 20mm f2.8 AI-S but the F/F2 ain't and neither is the UD.
 
msbarnes said:
One thing that I am unsure is the importance for MLU and I'm sure this has been beaten to death.

I use 50mm-20mm mostly at 1/60-1/15 and sometimes 1/8. I think most of my unsharp images are simply due to camera shake but I figured that using MLU would eliminate this variable. And hence the reason why I wanted a body with MLU. F2's and F3's are not too much money so getting another SLR body isn't that big of a deal.
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No need for mirror lock up for that you need a tripod, mirror lock up was not even an option on Canon Eos 1 etc it was more popular on older mechanical cameras with clunky mirrors.
 
mr.yates said:
The F4 is my favorite SLR, I still shoot it. I'm not a believer that the current G lenses are a great fit with the F4 as there is no way to adjust aperture with the body. Program modes I guess would fly. The F4 gives 100% VF with most if not all finders, and has that pop-up viewing hood available as an option for those who might not believe it is actually 100% in the prism.
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Shutter priority works with G lenses too.

About the only thing the F4 won't do is VR.

Ronnie
 
I have F2 , F4s and F5 . Prefer the F5 , has snappier shutter release . At single frame rate : if you press the shutter and immediately press it again after exposure , the F4 won't fire , and the F5 does . For me that is important because I don't use contineous frame rate and sometimes the model has a better expression right after you've taken the first shot . The F5 eats batteries though . Good luck with your choice .
 
E.M said:
I have F2 , F4s and F5 . Prefer the F5 , has snappier shutter release . At single frame rate : if you press the shutter and immediately press it again after exposure , the F4 won't fire , and the F5 does .
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Huh? I can't reproduce that. Perhaps a focus hunting issue with some later AF lens generation? It certainly does not happen with manual focus or film age AF lenses.
 
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