dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
The ISO3200 looks acceptable and the ISO6400 looks reasonable - I can accept those from Leica.
Now this is a camera that I would actually consider - I'm going to digest his review this evening - I like the fact that he actually has decent photos at a reasonable size online taken by this system.
Cheers,
Dave
Now this is a camera that I would actually consider - I'm going to digest his review this evening - I like the fact that he actually has decent photos at a reasonable size online taken by this system.
Cheers,
Dave
KoNickon
Nick Merritt
Well this is the thing -- it's bad enough that product cycles for "regular" digital cameras are measured in months; when we're talking a Leica costing -- what? $8K?, it BETTER be something that's not going to get superseded for some time. Small wonder I was only willing to shell out $80 for my only digital camera.
Richard G
Mentor
Good review and lovely pictures. That 50 APO Summicron is a star most of us will never own. He has used the M9-P so knows the difference in feel of both. My understanding is that the increase in thickness may not just be the thumb grip depth. Certainly the thumb grip will be necessary if it's heavier than the M9.
If the sensor is doing the metering on occasions does this increase the risk of dust on the sensor? Time will tell.
If the sensor is doing the metering on occasions does this increase the risk of dust on the sensor? Time will tell.
robbeiflex
Well-known
Excellent food for thought. I was really ready to pony up for an M-E, whereas now I'm seriously pondering whether to keep saving up for the M. Oh well, I will just have to wait (and happily keep loading B&W film into my M6) until my local dealer has a demo model and then visit with my Summicron and a memory card.
Cheers,
Rob
Cheers,
Rob
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
I'm not through his whole review yet but I will say this - I like this guys method of reviewing - he seems honest and that can definitely make people put trust in what he is saying - he doesn't make apologies for things he doesn't like about the camera and he also calls out what HE likes regardless if others feel it's trivial (i.e. frame preview lever for example) - and he's been up front with his disclosure that he helped in the testing process for the camera. I just hope the full size out of the camera files are as nice pre-processing as the ones we see in the review and on his Flickr page 
Cheers,
Dave
Cheers,
Dave
furcafe
Mentor
Godfrey
somewhat colored
I guess that means that $1500 is not significant to you.
For some it might be. Just sayin' ...
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Godfrey
somewhat colored
I thought he was quite clear about the size differences. Sounded clear to me: pretty similar to the M9, different control dial and thumb rest makes the camera feel a little different, a little heavier (likely due to the bigger battery).
Why do you think the center-weighted and matrix metering modes are just hacks? I didn't get that impression.
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Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
That's a strange assumption Godfrey ... $1500.00 is very significant to me because I work sporadically and live life on the cheap so I can afford the things that matter to me photographically.
I just think that given the choice of what the 240 is capable of in comparison to the ME the price difference is not huge. Leica are to be congratulated for finally offering a camera that can be used professionally in difficult lighting conditions at a price that allows one to retain both kidneys!
Just sayin' .....
segedi
RFicianado
Oh boy, I was thinking of canceling my pre-order... but now... I might just have to signup for Reid Reviews again even though the format (flash) is awful. The content is good and I'd like to hear his comparisons as well.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
If you're concerned about price to that degree, why you would be more interested in a $7000 body than a $5400 body is unclear to me.
The new M is a higher end camera with more features than the M-E, which is a redux of the M9 with some minor changes. However, the M-E is an excellent camera (just like the M9) and offers a lot of value at 30% off current new M price.
For many, particularly those who don't care too much about the additional features and who don't need stratospheric ISO settings, they can buy an M-E and a good lens for a hefty bit less than the new M body alone. I know several who will go that way because the additional things that the new M offers are not significant to them, but the price difference certainly is.
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Godfrey
somewhat colored
I can't get past Sean's delivery mechanism. I had a subscription for a year and will not renew it. Makes trying to read his articles too much of a struggle.
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dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Well.. after finishing that review I will hold on for the others and see what they have to say - my biggest concern about this camera was the unknown sensor maker and how it would perform - it seems pretty good however there are some concerns that Ming raised - the muddiness at higher ISO's in the shadows is a concern, especially since my intent is not to just use this camera for nice, evenly lit landscapes or such but in dimly lit reception halls at weddings.
I am, for the first time in a long time, actually considering a new Leica body. . . and this is after a horrible horrible experience with a brand new M8 back in 2008.
Cheers,
Dave
I am, for the first time in a long time, actually considering a new Leica body. . . and this is after a horrible horrible experience with a brand new M8 back in 2008.
Cheers,
Dave
Jubb Jubb
Well-known
I'm really not impressed with the images, they look sub standard to what the current M9/M8 puts out presently. Images feel flat.
peter_n
Mentor
I'll wait for a year or more after it's released to see if it's reliable and high ISO is decent. I've not bought any of Leica's digitals so far and it wouldn't bother me to do it again. I'm using a NEX-7 with my Leica lenses and for what I use color for it's more than adequate.
Rogier
Rogier Willems
Any one know if the M 240 can be ordered with engraving?
airfrogusmc
Mentor
There will probably be a new M-E with a CMOS sensor at some point in the not to distant future.
Richard G
Mentor
Still got my M9, almost a year old. Still happy enough. I'm now over the Monochrom. I think getting over the 240 will be much easier. The only thing I would really want is the better high ISO performance, which still doesn't sound stellar, and the thumb grip. Oh, and the quieter shutter.
swoop
Well-known
It's because I'm a bit sensitive to the use of language where he says it's thicker presumably because of the new LCD or thumb grip. To presume means he's essentially guessing it's because of the LCD or thumb grip and doesn't know which. All you'd have to do is hold it against an M9 to be certain.
He also mentioned that the spot and metering modes only worked with the shutter open, so it's the sensor doing the measuring like any EVF camera. And the center weighted mode works like any traditional M, measuring light off the shutter blades. Also when using the spot and matrix modes he said there's a noticeable lag as the shutter closes to begin taking a photo.