New York September 2022 NYC Meet-Up

Dammit.
ok ok, Im going to avoid the last weekend of September, I want to go to the Race of Gentlemen thing in Wildwood NJ,if anyone is interested?
So how about we go for the 18th?

Fidel,

The September Meet-Up will be on Sunday the 18th.

Let’s meet at the Beer Garden in Astoria. I doubt the lame server/crackhead will be working there anymore.

Cal
 
Wait?! I missed a crackhead server??? Dammit! I always miss the good stuff.

Fidel,

It was a form of free entertainment. Then after Joe and Helen left there was a live band doing heavy metal versions of 70’s songs.

Christian suffered the most with this lame sever. I paid the bill with my credit card, but I would of liked to have paid in cash, so I paid the combined bill for Joe, Helen and me, but I figure I would pay the tip in cash. The result was that the $20.00 bill was enough to score some drugs so the guy walked off the job.

Anyways it was amusing…

Christian pretty much had to place his food order three times. After about an hour it finally came, then later another server who took over came by looking for the customer who ordered the other two orders. Christian and I just looked at each other knowing that order number two and three were his.

Lots of drama. Then there were two heavy downpours…

Cal
 
My Robot Royal 36 I discovered is an early one made in 1955. I was wondering about the continuous and burst mode switch missing from my camera. I figure this feature came on later cameras, but because mine is an early version it does not have it.

Cal
 
I’m occupied with getting the upstairs bath done because once that gets done I can move into “Calzone-Mode” and start working on my stuff, like the garage/studio, the Chevy C10, building out a darkroom, and having some form of sound proof room.

I’m a bit tired of being a house-slave, but things have to get done before I have my fun.

The Powder Room we figure can revert back to a 3/4 bath with a corner shower when amend if we need to. Understand that we are going to have a soaking tub upstairs and we don’t know say 30-40 years from now if getting into and out of a tub will be a problem. No nursing home for me. We will age in place.

”Maggie” wants me to get a table saw, radial arm saw, and other equipment so I can have a full blown wood shop. Pretty much just replacing and redoing all the rest of the moldings will pay for the tools.. I will then be able to make frames, a standing desk, and build all kinds of stuff.

A second coat of gel stain and the door darkened a bit, but I still have a red door and I’m still a “Back Door Man.” There are parts that are starting to brown out.

I really like the play of light and how the depth, detail and the grain suck you into looking closer. Even in shadow or indirect light there is a glow of sorts that draws one in.

So are the many details that make this a cute house. Not big, not expensive, but mighty cute.

Cal
 
You need saws powered and maybe metalworking. I bought a machinists bandsaw and enjoying making metal chips and precision camera parts
 
You need saws powered and maybe metalworking. I bought a machinists bandsaw and enjoying making metal chips and precision camera parts

Devil Dan,

At Grumman I had an Aerospace company at my disposal. Does not get better than that. Also had engineering support. Of course all the best equipment and supplies.

Too bad my house is so small, otherwise I would be doing all kinds of building. Kinda funny when I lived in a tiny apartment I printed big, and now that I have a house I’m going into a rational size, meaning normal.

Perhaps I can use the truck and use it to be the camera transport for something big. Devil Christian has been pointing me towards these studio camera mounts like yours that I could utilize in my garage/studio, the bed of the pickup truck, or to launch missiles as a rocket launcher.

You and Devil Christian are trouble makers. LOL.

Cal
 
Devil Dan,

I discovered a Rodenstock Imagon 200mm F5.8 boxed with the set of “Strainers” at PIX Cellar.

Don’t know if you could use them, but I know this is right up your alley.

Cal
 
My Robot Royal 36 I discovered is an early one made in 1955. I was wondering about the continuous and burst mode switch missing from my camera. I figure this feature came on later cameras, but because mine is an early version it does not have it.

Cal

Great to hear you've acquired a RoBoT Royal and looking forward to seeing your photos from it.

I always thought only the 36s models came with the sequence shooting lever but seems that's not the case.

I have a few different RoBoT models and accessories now: lenses, filters, viewfinders etc. Slippery slope buying into this marque...
 
Devil Dan,

I discovered a Rodenstock Imagon 200mm F5.8 boxed with the set of “Strainers” at PIX Cellar.

Don’t know if you could use them, but I know this is right up your alley.

Cal

Hi Cal,
Sure is. But I already have a couple of 200's already. Thnx for the heads up LOL. One set up for my Sinars and another set up for Makiflexes
If it's cheap-cheap you should put it on your Kardoncolor 4x5. Be awesome for classic retro 4x5 portraiture in your studio. To get the Imagon effect you have to use three spot lights. Is it is shutter? You wouldnt want it if it's a barrel lens. Comes in a box, with three strainers, lens hood Imagon, and ND filter if modern, yellow filter if more 60s retro. And instructions. I have mucho Imagon literature, I have the entire collection. Without question the Compound air shutter is finest and most consistent after a good cleaning.
Worth 300+ in shutter
 
Great to hear you've acquired a RoBoT Royal and looking forward to seeing your photos from it.

I always thought only the 36s models came with the sequence shooting lever but seems that's not the case.

I have a few different RoBoT models and accessories now: lenses, filters, viewfinders etc. Slippery slope buying into this marque...

LD,

Indeed. I am a weak man who looks like he has “Robot-Disease.”

Our friend “Devil Christian” is working on a spool to overcome the awkward loading so these cameras will become true fast shooters.

I was mucho lucky to score a minty sample. Came with cap, case and cassette. The case is missing the long belt to make a strap, but the short belt stubs are there. I would say that the case is in “time machine” condition going all the way back to 1955 when it was brand new. The cassette seems to be brand new also, but I’m missing the box.

So I don’t have the burst switch.

Right now I have GAS for a Devil Christian Robot, which is an early Vollautomat Star II with the monster spring winding knob for 50 shots. I would love to have 50 shot fire-power. For me the newer Robot Vollautomat is less pretty. That huge awkward oversized knob does something to me.

I love how the film rewind telescopes into an upright position as it extends a driveshaft into the feeding cassette. I love how the gearing gets disengaged by lifting the film advance knob and locking it. And then to hide a film reminder knob under another knob is so James Bond like. After all Robots were spy cameras.

I figured out tat the “R” on the lock out lever is somehow interlocked with the back. Evidently the “R” does not disengage the film advance, but what does it do, and why is it interlocked to the back?

The thing that concerns me is that many of the Robot lenses are Schneider lenses, and these old lenses are prone to Schneider-it is, meaning fungus.

Anyways I would not mind owning a Royal 24, especially one with a 30mm Xenagon to shoot the square.

Cal
 
Hi Cal,
Sure is. But I already have a couple of 200's already. Thnx for the heads up LOL. One set up for my Sinars and another set up for Makiflexes
If it's cheap-cheap you should put it on your Kardoncolor 4x5. Be awesome for classic retro 4x5 portraiture in your studio. To get the Imagon effect you have to use three spot lights. Is it is shutter? You wouldnt want it if it's a barrel lens. Comes in a box, with three strainers, lens hood Imagon, and ND filter if modern, yellow filter if more 60s retro. And instructions. I have mucho Imagon literature, I have the entire collection. Without question the Compound air shutter is finest and most consistent after a good cleaning.
Worth 300+ in shutter

Dan,

You are the Devil. I have to check about the shutter.

Yes I have a Linhof Kardon Color. Snarky Joe gifted it to me. This is what I mean about “Linhof-Disease.”

Oh-Boy, I don’t even have my studio built yet, and I’ll likely pick this up. That is if it is complete and with the shutter.

In grad school we did three-point lighting. Is this what you are talking about?

As you can see Linhof Disease is still spreading. Poor Helen Hill I think is Devil Christian’s next victim.

Cal
 
Devil Dan,

Pretty much a boxed set. Yellow filter for my retro, even the box is like a 50’s Fender tweed guitar case. And yes it has the compound shutter.

Meanwhile on EBAY there are other Imagons, but they have Copal shutters. Some are crazy money. This dealer I would profile as a “Fisherman” who uses BIN and best offer. He says it is from an estate sale and the shutter sounds good. Not minty condition, but it is all there.

Me thinks offer him $300.00 and see if he bites. Perhaps I will low ball and see if he likes it.

He is also selling a Robot Royal 24 with a 30mm Xenagon that I want. This camera has a lens that has been serviced and was a personal camera. Body is not as fresh as my Royal 36 which kinda is a trophy camera.

Anyways this is an interesting game a fisherman verses me an old “Pin Hooker.” Pin hookers are fisherman who sell their catch for profit, but don’t have a commercial fishing license.

Now I have something else to obsess about…

Cal
 
LD,

Indeed. I am a weak man who looks like he has “Robot-Disease.”

Our friend “Devil Christian” is working on a spool to overcome the awkward loading so these cameras will become true fast shooters.

I was mucho lucky to score a minty sample. Came with cap, case and cassette. The case is missing the long belt to make a strap, but the short belt stubs are there. I would say that the case is in “time machine” condition going all the way back to 1955 when it was brand new. The cassette seems to be brand new also, but I’m missing the box.

So I don’t have the burst switch.

Right now I have GAS for a Devil Christian Robot, which is an early Vollautomat Star II with the monster spring winding knob for 50 shots. I would love to have 50 shot fire-power. For me the newer Robot Vollautomat is less pretty. That huge awkward oversized knob does something to me.

I love how the film rewind telescopes into an upright position as it extends a driveshaft into the feeding cassette. I love how the gearing gets disengaged by lifting the film advance knob and locking it. And then to hide a film reminder knob under another knob is so James Bond like. After all Robots were spy cameras.

I figured out tat the “R” on the lock out lever is somehow interlocked with the back. Evidently the “R” does not disengage the film advance, but what does it do, and why is it interlocked to the back?

The thing that concerns me is that many of the Robot lenses are Schneider lenses, and these old lenses are prone to Schneider-it is, meaning fungus.

Anyways I would not mind owning a Royal 24, especially one with a 30mm Xenagon to shoot the square.

Cal

The R on the safety lock knob is to rewind the film. The middle red dot setting locks the shutter, recommended if you don't want to accidentally shoot a roll of film in your camera bag. According to my instruction booklet, you can check the presence of film in the camera by setting to "R", lifting the rewind knob and turning carefully I the direction of the arrow. If there's film in it the take up knob will turn.
 
I don't find my metal cassette too difficult to load. Note that if you're fabricating one it has a couple of knobs on the bottom that slide into the camera base to prevent rotational movement.

I have the uncoated 35mm Xenogon 2.8 for the Royal 36, just got a film back using that and a 50mm Sonnar and I think the Xenogon looks sharper. Superb image quality.
 
I figured out tat the “R” on the lock out lever is somehow interlocked with the back. Evidently the “R” does not disengage the film advance, but what does it do, and why is it interlocked to the back?

The thing that concerns me is that many of the Robot lenses are Schneider lenses, and these old lenses are prone to Schneider-it is, meaning fungus.

Anyways I would not mind owning a Royal 24, especially one with a 30mm Xenagon to shoot the square.

Cal

Selecting R on the back of my Vollautomat seems to only lock the shutter, same as with the red dot next to it. I need to lift the knob on the right and lock it out of the way in order to release the NR-Kassette and rewind. I assumed it would also release the drive sprocket wheel, but it doesn't do that. The film just somehow glides past it.

Schneideritis is not fungus, it is the little bubbles at the edge of the glass that were there from the factory. They look weird, but have no affect on the image. It is not a real disease.
 
The R on the safety lock knob is to rewind the film. The middle red dot setting locks the shutter, recommended if you don't want to accidentally shoot a roll of film in your camera bag. According to my instruction booklet, you can check the presence of film in the camera by setting to "R", lifting the rewind knob and turning carefully I the direction of the arrow. If there's film in it the take up knob will turn.

LD,

Thanks. I understand the green dot and the red dot for unlocking the shutter and locking it, but the “R” made no sense to me. What you say makes sense.

Pretty much I was doing a “Maggie,” she has a PhD and pretty much overthinks and second guesses all the time.

Cal
 
Morning Cal,

200mm Imagon discussion here: Squable Squable Squable LOL

The Imagon 200 5.8 for 4x5? (largeformatphotography.info)

At the end of the thread is a link to the original instruction book from 1962. Prolly about yer vintage or so. Peruse it

Hard Sharp Specular lighting (such as from optical spotlights) will maximize the famous glowing halation "Imagon Effect" Often called "pincher lighting". Of course it's useful for other things too

From the above thread:

Dr. Alfons Scholz of Rodenstock was a great Imagon scholar. In his book he explains his preference:

"The most favorable combination of camera and lens available is the Imagon 200 mm with the size 9 x 12cm. Full use of the field angle, unlimited aperture sequence, advantageous spatial depth, all these things are only possible with this combination. Anyone who does not want to use the Imagon for only one purpose, but who wants to make the most of his lens, will have to select the 200 mm lens and use it with a 9 x 12 camera."...
The 200mm has a covering power of 154mm and therefore can be used on 4x5 without movement, although it is primary adapted to Medium Format cameras. The 250mm has a field of 180mm and is thus a better choice for 4x5. The 300mm covers 5x7 (220mm field).


Regarding Schneideritis:
This can happen in any lens (not just Schneider!) it's NOT fungus. The black coating on the exterior of the lens "block", painted on at the factory, can develop "bubbles". Much squable about this, bottom line it has ZERO photographic effect. Ask Jason Lane he will tell you. You can recoat/paint the rear exterior of a lens element (or the whole optical block), reinsert it into the barrel, Viola like new lens. Schneideritis can be a tremendous bargaining chip, actually. Rodenstock and especially Fuji get the dreaded "Schneideritis". It's all bull. Lenses age.
 
Morning Cal,

200mm Imagon discussion here: Squable Squable Squable LOL

The Imagon 200 5.8 for 4x5? (largeformatphotography.info)

At the end of the thread is a link to the original instruction book from 1962. Prolly about yer vintage or so. Peruse it

Hard Sharp Specular lighting (such as from optical spotlights) will maximize the famous glowing halation "Imagon Effect" Often called "pincher lighting". Of course it's useful for other things too

From the above thread:

Dr. Alfons Scholz of Rodenstock was a great Imagon scholar. In his book he explains his preference:

"The most favorable combination of camera and lens available is the Imagon 200 mm with the size 9 x 12cm. Full use of the field angle, unlimited aperture sequence, advantageous spatial depth, all these things are only possible with this combination. Anyone who does not want to use the Imagon for only one purpose, but who wants to make the most of his lens, will have to select the 200 mm lens and use it with a 9 x 12 camera."...
The 200mm has a covering power of 154mm and therefore can be used on 4x5 without movement, although it is primary adapted to Medium Format cameras. The 250mm has a field of 180mm and is thus a better choice for 4x5. The 300mm covers 5x7 (220mm field).


Regarding Schneideritis:
This can happen in any lens (not just Schneider!) it's NOT fungus. The black coating on the exterior of the lens "block", painted on at the factory, can develop "bubbles". Much squable about this, bottom line it has ZERO photographic effect. Ask Jason Lane he will tell you. You can recoat/paint the rear exterior of a lens element (or the whole optical block), reinsert it into the barrel, Viola like new lens. Schneideritis can be a tremendous bargaining chip, actually. Rodenstock and especially Fuji get the dreaded "Schneideritis". It's all bull. Lenses age.

Dan,

Thanks for the info.

Not so sure I would use movements offered in a 4x5. I pretty much only use rise anyways when I do so the 200 mm is perfect for me.

In the meantime I bought another camera, German, an Agfa Selecta, boxed, with minty case, and instruction manual in German. Went to an estate sale, the same lawyer’s house where we bought the Brown and Jordan lounge chairs.

So the the real deal is that it has the same German leather belt that is used on my Robot case. The brown color is not exact, but close enough. The Selectra is a zone focus camera and about the size of a 120 camera even though it shoots 135.

Bought an antique Collins Anti Back Ache Self Skirt Marker that you load with chalk to set hems. I can see this kinda stuff loitering my studio, and don’t forget that I still have a JUKI commercial sewing machine. Has a steel base painted gold, a 30 inch ruler printed on one side, and “Directions For Best Results” printed on the other side of the wooden ruler. Has two squeeze balls set at the height perhaps as someone’s testicles.

I love this kinda stuff, and it is just plain odd and unusual. A great find for $20.00.

Also bought a hand colored B&W print from a Edwin P. Huddle that is an edition of 3/25 titled “Plain Monday” made in 91. The background is a timeless house with clapboard siding, but on a close-line are a group of drab solid colored house dresses. The sizes are kinda matron-E.

Evidently the gallery that sold the print is from a place called “Intercourse,” PA. You can’t make this stuff up. Had to buy it: a framed and matted 11x14 for $30.00.

So now we are on some mailing list for estate sales in Westchester and Connecticut. Bought a table, another print, a woven plant holder, and a Carlos Santana Boxed set, all for little money.

Easy to see how when people downsize, how distressing it is. Pretty much part of one’s life has to be disposed of and pretty much is garbage. In this particular estate sale I could have bought a really high end set of master bedroom furniture that was mucho costly 40 years ago that was in pristine condition. Pretty much it will go into storage, but I can see me using my truck to basically buy low and sell high.

These were wealthy lawyers who were retiring. The wife could not deal with the sense of loss, and the husband had to deal with all of it. Pretty easy to double and triple money by careful curation and buying low.

Know that at Stormville an antique and flea market that venders generally don’t bring out big, heavy, or bulky items, and the same kinda goes for Elephant’s Trunk in Connecticut. Having a truck to pick up and deliver is the service that would make things EZ-PZ.

So this is not Sanford and Son, but kind of a luxury recycling business.

Drove to Wilton Connecticut to view “Maggie’s” grandparents house. Very scenic dive on country roads. Lots of wealth nearby.

Cal
 
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