Erik van Straten
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Coldkennels
Barnack-toting Brit.
Yes... and also no.My vote is the Leica IIIg, and not to start anything but isn't a Barnack a Leica?
Most people's definition of a Barnack is a solid-bodied bottom loading rangefinder camera patterned around the original Oskar Barnack design for the Leica. So a Leica II is a Barnack, but an M3 is not. Similarly, a Canon IVSB is a Barnack, but a VT is not.
Then there's the purists who say only the cameras made while Barnack was alive or to the original tooling/specs are Barnacks - so the only "real" Barnacks are the I, Standard, II, III and IIIa. Some in this group might include the IIIb, but definitely turn their nose up at the IIIc onwards (with the change of construction) and anything without the Leitz branding.
Sonnar2
Well-known
In my oppinion a "Barnack" is a lightweight, sturdy, fast to operate camera, which was Barnack's goal in design. A camera for outdoor folks capable of quality imagery. So today it needs at least a TTL meter, and bottom loading is outdated, as much as I like the simplicity of my Leica III.
The best "Barnack to use" I have is the Bessa R (film) and Leica CL (digital), both lower than 400 grams as the original Leica I/II.
The best "Barnack to use" I have is the Bessa R (film) and Leica CL (digital), both lower than 400 grams as the original Leica I/II.
Erik van Straten
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Neither the Leica CL or the Bessa R were worthy successors of the Leica lll. The Leica lll is indestructible. That's the camera's strong point. It always works. The same you can't say of the Bessa or the CL.
Erik.
Erik.
Rayt
Nonplayer Character
I used to shoot with two IIIf each with 35 and 50 Elmars as daily users. I was so used to them my best time for loading film while walking with the bottom plate between my teeth was 45 seconds. Years later I could not get the damn thing properly loaded even sitting down. With the M3 so expensive maybe I’ll look into a IIIf RDST or IIIg. Hmmm. I am using a Bessa L now with the 28mm 5.6 and it’s ok.
pgk
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Erik van Straten
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My late Leica III, bought for EUR 90 on eBay about five or six years ago, maybe longer. My favorite Barnack. I use it with a SBOOI and a Summar or a Color Skopar. There was a very small problem with the camera, the closing curtain did not close completely. After an intensive study I've found the course: a very small piece of grit between the central disk on the bottom and the small clip/spring beside it. Removal of the grit turned the camera into a perfect piece of gear. Smooth as silk. Surely a professionally used camera.
Erik.

Erik.

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Erik van Straten
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hap
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Is there much of a difference between a IIIc v III?
milescl
Beamsplitter
New and larger body, VF/RF are closer, 1/1000th, more "robust" shutter.Is there much of a difference between a IIIc v III?
While the Canon L1 and VL don't look like Barnack Leicas, they have the same LTM mount
and offer many more features than the more traditional Barnacks already discussed here.
and offer many more features than the more traditional Barnacks already discussed here.
Erik van Straten
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Sonnar2
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Please add the Canon P for me because it's finder is much more friendly to my eyeglasses!While the Canon L1 and VL don't look like Barnack Leicas, they have the same LTM mount
and offer many more features than the more traditional Barnacks already discussed here.
But in terms of weight/size/functionality for a daily user I still prefer my Bessa-R...!
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Coldkennels
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...I'm really going to have to buy one of those LTM Amedeo adapters now he's making them again. I just can't decide if it's worth the extra for the external bayonet or not. Do I like the Jupiter 9 that much? Hmm...here is my best ever
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I haven't ever seen the dedicated 50mm adapter available in screw mount. When I had the opportunity to get the external bayonet version a while back I had to jump on it, as I had stupidly sold my previous one. This adapter is a Nikon S; @Sonnar Brian adjusted my CZ lenses to focus properly with it....I'm really going to have to buy one of those LTM Amedeo adapters now he's making them again. I just can't decide if it's worth the extra for the external bayonet or not. Do I like the Jupiter 9 that much? Hmm...


Coldkennels
Barnack-toting Brit.
Stephen's got them in stock now: Amedeo Lens Adapters : shop.CameraQuest.comI haven't ever seen the dedicated 50mm adapter available in screw mount. When I had the opportunity to get the external bayonet version a while back I had to jump on it, as I had stupidly sold my previous one. This adapter is a Nikon S; @Sonnar Brian adjusted my CZ lenses to focus properly with it.
$249 for the 50mm only ones, $349 for the mixed internal/external one. An extra $100 just to use portrait and tele lenses is a bit tough to justify, but still...
yes I actually alerted Stephen that Amedeo would have some soon, he may have committed to buy all of Amedeo's new production.
I use a 35/2.5 Nikkor and three different 50s with mine (CZ f/2, CZ f/1.5, and Nikkor f/2.)
I use a 35/2.5 Nikkor and three different 50s with mine (CZ f/2, CZ f/1.5, and Nikkor f/2.)
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