Tom A
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The original Leicavit MP used a chain with a single action clutch. the chain was notorious for stretching and this conbined with the single action clucth made it prone to mis aligned negs (overlaps or you had to pull twice on it for safe advance).
The drive in my Rapidwinder is from a reinforced timing belt and in 20 years of manufacturing I have had two belts fail. One because the user took it apart and tried to fix it and managed to twist it and one that I suspect had a flaw in the reinforcing of the belt. I did look into using a chain when I started the design, but the stretching and the "clatter" from the chain made me look otherwise.
What is interesting is tha Leica, when they started to make the "new" Leicavit (in 2003) borrowed heavily from my design and also from Mr Kobayashi's design of the Bessa Rapidwinder. The internals are directly off mine, beltdrive,one way multiple engagement point clutch and CNC machined housing. The lever lock is a direct copy of the Voigtlander lever.
Leica does use a softer spring in the return action than I do, but I do prefer having the lever come back quickly and with "authority"
Leica gave me one of the Leicavit MP's in 2003 and I took it apart (of course!) and it is a very nice design, but hugely over complicated. Any dirt or dust getting in through the base slot will quite quickly wear out the shaft that holds the lever assembly in place and the multiple sprocket gear for the drive adds unnecessary complexity. It was done to keep the profile the same as the original Leicavit.
I was more concerned with durability and strength as well as the simplest possible design. The more parts you add, the more chances that something will act up!
The Leicavit MP actually uses more parts in the locking mechanism than I do in my entire winder!
I still get the occasional winder from 1987/88 for service and upgrades. As for being heavily used, one of New York Times staff shooters said it best." You have to wear the Rapidwinder in to a specific body, does take a couple of 100 rolls and after 5000+ rolls it gets REALLY smooth" Most problems with the Rapidwinder occurs from it being dropped and the flange bent or dented. So far I haven't had a single one where straight wear has stopped it from functioning. Occasionally, the drive can wear the shaft in the clucth sufficiently to have it "hic-up" but that is a simple fix.
On November 15 it is excactly 20 years since the first Rapidwinder came off the "assembly" line and since then there has been 4000+ made.mainly M4P/M6 and MP but also 360 M2 Rapidwinders and about 100 for IIIF/IIIg's.
In spite of the Digital Tsunami there is still demand for it and that gives me hope for the future of film.
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The original Leicavit MP used a chain with a single action clutch. the chain was notorious for stretching and this conbined with the single action clucth made it prone to mis aligned negs (overlaps or you had to pull twice on it for safe advance).
The drive in my Rapidwinder is from a reinforced timing belt and in 20 years of manufacturing I have had two belts fail. One because the user took it apart and tried to fix it and managed to twist it and one that I suspect had a flaw in the reinforcing of the belt. I did look into using a chain when I started the design, but the stretching and the "clatter" from the chain made me look otherwise.
What is interesting is tha Leica, when they started to make the "new" Leicavit (in 2003) borrowed heavily from my design and also from Mr Kobayashi's design of the Bessa Rapidwinder. The internals are directly off mine, beltdrive,one way multiple engagement point clutch and CNC machined housing. The lever lock is a direct copy of the Voigtlander lever.
Leica does use a softer spring in the return action than I do, but I do prefer having the lever come back quickly and with "authority"
Leica gave me one of the Leicavit MP's in 2003 and I took it apart (of course!) and it is a very nice design, but hugely over complicated. Any dirt or dust getting in through the base slot will quite quickly wear out the shaft that holds the lever assembly in place and the multiple sprocket gear for the drive adds unnecessary complexity. It was done to keep the profile the same as the original Leicavit.
I was more concerned with durability and strength as well as the simplest possible design. The more parts you add, the more chances that something will act up!
The Leicavit MP actually uses more parts in the locking mechanism than I do in my entire winder!
I still get the occasional winder from 1987/88 for service and upgrades. As for being heavily used, one of New York Times staff shooters said it best." You have to wear the Rapidwinder in to a specific body, does take a couple of 100 rolls and after 5000+ rolls it gets REALLY smooth" Most problems with the Rapidwinder occurs from it being dropped and the flange bent or dented. So far I haven't had a single one where straight wear has stopped it from functioning. Occasionally, the drive can wear the shaft in the clucth sufficiently to have it "hic-up" but that is a simple fix.
On November 15 it is excactly 20 years since the first Rapidwinder came off the "assembly" line and since then there has been 4000+ made.mainly M4P/M6 and MP but also 360 M2 Rapidwinders and about 100 for IIIF/IIIg's.
In spite of the Digital Tsunami there is still demand for it and that gives me hope for the future of film.
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Tom A
http://flickr.com/photos/rapidwinder/
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farlymac
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The best accessory I've bought for my M4-P, hands down!
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Calzone
Gear Whore #1
I own two: a silver version; and a black version.
Also these get used with TA Rapidgrips.
Pretty much the vibe if a rigged M-body with a TA Rapidwinder and TA Rapidgrip is that it feels like my Nikon F3P.
I tend to shoot sequences, and I shoot in three round bursts where I take a cover shot, step closer for a tighter shot, and then recompose for a last shot.
My hands are more spread, and the added weight I think helps steady the camera.
I miss Tom. He was a friend to the world.
Cal
Also these get used with TA Rapidgrips.
Pretty much the vibe if a rigged M-body with a TA Rapidwinder and TA Rapidgrip is that it feels like my Nikon F3P.
I tend to shoot sequences, and I shoot in three round bursts where I take a cover shot, step closer for a tighter shot, and then recompose for a last shot.
My hands are more spread, and the added weight I think helps steady the camera.
I miss Tom. He was a friend to the world.
Cal
Phil_F_NM
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Somewhere out there is M2 Rapidwinder #003, which T & T went out of their way to ship to me when I was a photographer in Iraq in 2004. Regrettably, I sold it when I got back to the states (I was not in a good frame of mind at the time) and I wish I still had it, more than the M2 body itself, just because of the connection with Tom.
That winder never failed and made my left-eyed shooting such a pleasure, as well as fast. Incredible piece of workmanship from an incredible man. One of the world's best people. I'm so glad to have known him through the LUG, RFF and various friends, and esteemed photographers such as the late Ted Grant, OC.
Phil Forrest
That winder never failed and made my left-eyed shooting such a pleasure, as well as fast. Incredible piece of workmanship from an incredible man. One of the world's best people. I'm so glad to have known him through the LUG, RFF and various friends, and esteemed photographers such as the late Ted Grant, OC.
Phil Forrest
Calzone
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So I own two out of the 4,000 M4P/M6/MP versions.
One of my TA Rapidgrips is a black paint version.
Cal
One of my TA Rapidgrips is a black paint version.
Cal