The Voigtlander Vitessa: Most elegant rangefinder folder 35 of all timeThe “Mercedes 300SL” of cameras it was doomed by its brilliant design!

I have looked for an original Vitessa lenshood but they are expensive
So I designed my own
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I have looked for an original Vitessa lenshood but they are expensive
So I designed my own
Hmmmm. Perhaps I'll hunt up a friend with a 3D printer... ;) thx!
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I just had my Retina IIa repaired and serviced by Bill Moretz, the ace camera repairman who fettles my vintage classics. After partially disassembling the camera and bringing it up to spec, here are his observations on the range/viewfinder:
"In most combined range/viewfinders the rangefinder patch moves as the lens is focused so it coincides with the viewfinder image. However, in the Kodak Retina IIa the rangefinder patch remains stationary as you focus the lens, and an external lens moves laterally across the front of the viewfinder to make the viewfinder and rangefinder images coincide. This lateral movement of the finder images is not parallax compensation, and in fact the viewing image moves in the opposite direction from what would be needed to provide lateral parallax compensation. Evidently this oddball system was only used in the Retina IIa and in the later (1946) version of the Retina II, the first Retina with a combined range/viewfinder."
Chris Sherlock as a good description of the RF
 
Hmmmm. Perhaps I'll hunt up a friend with a 3D printer... ;) thx!
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I have looked for an original Vitessa lenshood but they are expensive
So I designed my own
Nice! Most impressive -- there might be folks here who want one too! I do have one of the original hoods -- glad I got it when I did.
 
The Vitessa I purchased arrived. It's in good shape cosmetically and does meet the description: It's complete and undamaged, the case is in nice shape. The meter that came with it has a dead selenium cell, as expected.

The camera does, also as expected, need a full service: the shutter hangs and is obviously full of guck and dried up lubricants. Off to service tomorrow... :)

To Jason's notes: Well, held together, whether it is more or less elegant than a Kodak Retina IIc I cannot answer.


Kodak Retina IIc & Voigtländer Vitessa

... but they're both darn nice looking! :D

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To me it looks as if the Vitessa has been built to a design created at a given point in time and the Retina has evolved mechanically.

They both look good.

By the way, I have been using a Retinette lately. Lovely cheap camera, well built of course. They are often forgotten.
 
The Vitessa I purchased arrived. It's in good shape cosmetically and does meet the description: It's complete and undamaged, the case is in nice shape. The meter that came with it has a dead selenium cell, as expected.

The camera does, also as expected, need a full service: the shutter hangs and is obviously full of guck and dried up lubricants. Off to service tomorrow... :)

To Jason's notes: Well, held together, whether it is more or less elegant than a Kodak Retina IIc I cannot answer.


Kodak Retina IIc & Voigtländer Vitessa

... but they're both darn nice looking! :D

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Your vitessa seems to be about the same vintage as mine, great cameras.
Exercize a few hundred times in 15 or 30; and check if the plunger is working every time

Selenium meters can usually be revived without much fuss folloiwing this method (adapting it to each camera)
I have tried it a few times and they end within 1/2 stop of a digicam
 
Your vitessa seems to be about the same vintage as mine, great cameras.
Exercize a few hundred times in 15 or 30; and check if the plunger is working every time

Selenium meters can usually be revived without much fuss folloiwing this method (adapting it to each camera)
I have tried it a few times and they end within 1/2 stop of a digicam
I followed this advice with a Contessa just like this one and I was very pleased that it worked! (I think it's in need of revival again though.) But you need to know exactly how to work on the meter in question -- the Contessa's is fortunately pretty easy to get it. The Vitessa's may be tougher.
 
heh ... I found a Voigtländer Kontur 24x36 accessory finder to go with the Vitessa as well. :D

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Now you can hand people your camera and say "take a look through this!". Still close an eye myself occasionally...

Never noticed it before, but there are definite hints of the early Werra in the styling, aren't there?
 
Your vitessa seems to be about the same vintage as mine, great cameras.
Exercize a few hundred times in 15 or 30; and check if the plunger is working every time

Selenium meters can usually be revived without much fuss folloiwing this method (adapting it to each camera)
I have tried it a few times and they end within 1/2 stop of a digicam
Thank you for that link. I did not know that little black "dot" was a calibration mark.
 
I followed this advice with a Contessa just like this one and I was very pleased that it worked! (I think it's in need of revival again though.) But you need to know exactly how to work on the meter in question -- the Contessa's is fortunately pretty easy to get it. The Vitessa's may be tougher.
My Vitessa variant has no built-in meter; the meter I'm referring to is a Metrophot accessory meter provided with the sale. I'll experiment with resuscitating it but don't have high expectations ... I have plenty of good meters anyway, it's not a priority.

The plunger (film advance, shutter cocking) seems to work just fine. But I suspect the whole camera needs to be cleaned and serviced—just like an elderly mechanical wristwatch, continuing to run them on dried up and dirty lubricants can cause more damage. My '56 Omega Automatic was just serviced and it is now a super accurate, reliable little machine, the way it ought to be. :)

I have to measure the lens and see which lens hood fits. Much as a 3D printed hood would work fine, eh? I kinda like having the original Voigtländer hood, despite the cost.

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My Vitessa variant has no built-in meter; the meter I'm referring to is a Metrophot accessory meter provided with the sale. I'll experiment with resuscitating it but don't have high expectations ... I have plenty of good meters anyway, it's not a priority.

The plunger (film advance, shutter cocking) seems to work just fine. But I suspect the whole camera needs to be cleaned and serviced—just like an elderly mechanical wristwatch, continuing to run them on dried up and dirty lubricants can cause more damage. My '56 Omega Automatic was just serviced and it is now a super accurate, reliable little machine, the way it ought to be. :)

I have to measure the lens and see which lens hood fits. Much as a 3D printed hood would work fine, eh? I kinda like having the original Voigtländer hood, despite the cost.

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The hood is 125/20 (34.5mm) soemtimes you can find them for less than $50 but most of the time they go for 100 on the auction sites
Maybe in a used camera store that has "magical" bins (I've found some gems for next to nothing)

The other voigtlander hoods dont fit
 
The hood is 125/20 (34.5mm) soemtimes you can find them for less than $50 but most of the time they go for 100 on the auction sites
Maybe in a used camera store that has "magical" bins (I've found some gems for next to nothing)

The other voigtlander hoods dont fit
Yes, that's pretty much what I've found. About $50 plus whatever shipping and tax.
There are no "used camera stores" left anywhere it won't cost me more to get there and back anymore. :(

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I would like to say that the deckel mount of the vitessa t is a bit different than that"normal" deckel mount. The vitassa has another ring and it will not fit the adapter you talk about. This adapter is only good for the lenses of retina iiis or voigtlander besaamatic!
Important to know -- thanks!
 
I would like to say that the deckel mount of the vitessa t is a bit different than that"normal" deckel mount. The vitassa has another ring and it will not fit the adapter you talk about. This adapter is only good for the lenses of retina iiis or voigtlander besaamatic!
The original DKL mount was that of the Vitessa T and Braun Colorette, lenses had their own aperture ring at this point

The cameras you mention had extra notches in the mount, and lens for control of the aperture from the camera and DKL kept making further modifications for each camera, resulting in many incompatible mounts of the German standard mount :D
 
Also check Chris Sherlock videos on servicing the Vitessa T


Just finished watching Chris' repair of the Vitessa T overhaul. Wow! 11 videos to cover it!
Way more complex to service than a Kodak Retina IIc/IIIc! I imagine the Vitessa bellows models with non-interchangeable lens are a little bit simpler, and what's encouraging is that the body of the one he did needed very little work: Most of the effort was concentrated around the lens, shutter, and complexities of the interchangeable mount and aperture control bits.

I noticed that the Vitessa T does have a parallax correction bit in the RF section. I'll have to review the notes in this thread to see whether this is also true of the non-interchangeable lens bellows models. Doesn't make too much difference to me: I'm just to shooting a little bit "loose" and tweaking my framing; do it without thinking.

My Vitessa has gone off to the shop now for service. 6-7 weeks was the estimate. :)

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