Very Early Coated Lenses- the first 10 years from 1935 to 1945.

David Hughes

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The Leica IV had a combined VF/RF, wider base.
The FED 2 looks more like a Leica IV than the IV looks like a IIIa.

https://gmpphoto.blogspot.com/2013/02/leicas-that-never-reached-market.html

I can remember that the Leica was a production model because I recognised it. And I realised they were calling it a IV as they'd not seen one before. So my guess now is that it was a IIIc, which is obviously different. My heap of old magazines is about 3ft high so I can't quickly lay my hands on the article.

Many others of us have wondered why the model III designation continued after a new longer, die cast body was introduced; it seems very logical.

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Many others of us have wondered why the model III designation continued after a new longer, die cast body was introduced; it seems very logical.

It makes sense given the naming structure of the Leicas:

A Leica I: no rangefinder (and later no viewfinder either).
A Leica II: rangefinder and viewfinder, but somehow "economised" (no slow speeds, most notably)
A Leica III: the full-fat Leica experience with all the trimmings.

The IIIc represented a development of the III - a refinement - not a whole new model. Similarly, there was also the Ic and IIc; if Leica had named the IIIc a Leica IV, what would the Ic and IIc be?

This naming structure then stuck around when the Ms came out; although people love the M2, it's worth bearing in mind that it was considered the cheaper, lesser version of the M3, thus earning the model II designation in the new M lineup.

I also find it interesting that the proposed IV did actually represent a whole new feature on the Barnack platform: combined RF/VF and the modular VF to allow for changing of focal length. If Leica had gone ahead with that, I wonder if they'd have kept the I, II, and III going, and if we'd have ended up with a IIk and a IVk down the line - or even something further down the alphabet like a IIIp!
 
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Shot with a nickel "black band" Sonnar 1: 1,5 f=5cm Carl Zeiss Jena Nr. 1628901. The lens seems to be uncoated, but the elements have a brownish sheen on them, a bit like Takumars from the 1960's. The camera used is a Contax 1 v4, presumable post war rebuild; very professionally done. The camera has a 3mm nickel flash contact on its right side but everything else seems to be original. Rangefinder base 10,5 cm (!).

gelatin silver print (zeiss jena sonnar 5 cm f1.5) contax 1 version 4

Erik.

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Sonnar Brian

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My newly converted CZJ 5cm F1.5 Sonnar T, using a KMZ J-3 mount. This is one of the first using lighter alloy for the barrel, and that had F22 marked.

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