Chuffed Cheese
Established
I've only just perused the article but figured some here might be interested in some more info on this upcoming lens. Looks promising, and after the stellar reception of their 50mm 1.1 I'm guessing a lot of people will be interested in this lens.
https://emulsive.org/reviews/gear-r...-lens-first-production-batch-exclusive-review
A small bit in the opening paragraph may bother some of you so proceed with caution if you are prone to being upset.
https://emulsive.org/reviews/gear-r...-lens-first-production-batch-exclusive-review
A small bit in the opening paragraph may bother some of you so proceed with caution if you are prone to being upset.
emulsive
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Thanks for sharing! You've got me all curious...which part of the opening paragraph might upset some folks?
grouchos_tash
Well-known
A small bit in the opening paragraph may bother some of you so proceed with caution if you are prone to being upset.
I thought you must have been referring to the 'sorry for the crap photos' bit. There was a thread about gear reviewers being poor photographers recently haha
Really intrigued by the lens though, thanks for the review!
emulsive
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AHA! Right. Yes, I was toying with the idea of removing it but was so disgusted at the attitude of a few people on social media that I left both that and the extended rant about its origin in - the rant is at the foot of the page.
I'm totally with you.
Again, thanks for reading. I focus more on film stock reviews than gear but have had a few nice opportunities recently. My opinion: if it's useful, it's worth it!
I'm totally with you.
Again, thanks for reading. I focus more on film stock reviews than gear but have had a few nice opportunities recently. My opinion: if it's useful, it's worth it!
emulsive
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I thought you must have been referring to the 'sorry for the crap photos' bit. There was a thread about gear reviewers being poor photographers recently haha
Really intrigued by the lens though, thanks for the review!
Ahahaha! There were probably about a dozen useable (for the review), shots on the two colour rolls - mostly because I chose a few VERY boring scenes for some impromptu aperture tests (2 through 16). The reason for the "crap" comment was mostly because this was the first 35mm lens I've shot with in around four years. I'm still very much getting used to it.
Thanks for reading
emulsive
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I just wish the price reveal wasn't so cagey. I understand the reasoning but it'd be nice to know exactly what I'll have to shell out. I'm guessing It will go up a bit as 50mm 1.1 was underpriced when it first released as seen by it's immediate scarcity.
I really only have a gut feel about the price right now and I didn't feel it fair to speculate. That said, I'm with you; it'll likely be a little more than the 50/1.1, although the scarcity of that lens was more to do with 7artisan's available production volume than it being underpriced!
zuikologist
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I suspect the price might be less than the 50/1.1, just because that was a flagship lens in some sense. Interesting to see a modern Sonnar in action - there aren't many around.
Chuffed Cheese
Established
I suspect the price might be less than the 50/1.1, just because that was a flagship lens in some sense. Interesting to see a modern Sonnar in action - there aren't many around.
lower price is always better, lol, so let's hope for that.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Even from single and so-so income, big family budget perspective, I'm not sure why price has to be less than 50 1.1, which was already next to for free in terms of M mount lenses pricing.
If this 35/2 will not suffer from focus shifts, it might be good alternative for my 35 2.5 ASPH (which is super lens on M-E) to keep this 35/2 on film M as the only lens.
Yes, distortions are very visible close to the edges, but to me it is not big deal. I like provided examples.
It looks like modern classic M lens, with ergonomics for RF photography. And they kept calibration part. I admire them for all of it.
RF coupling DIY adjustment is new standard. It shows right away what 7A has nothing in common with "CC" mentioned in the article.
If this 35/2 will not suffer from focus shifts, it might be good alternative for my 35 2.5 ASPH (which is super lens on M-E) to keep this 35/2 on film M as the only lens.
Yes, distortions are very visible close to the edges, but to me it is not big deal. I like provided examples.
It looks like modern classic M lens, with ergonomics for RF photography. And they kept calibration part. I admire them for all of it.
RF coupling DIY adjustment is new standard. It shows right away what 7A has nothing in common with "CC" mentioned in the article.
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
I liked the sample photos taken with that lens, they have a 1950s lens bokeh quality to them.
filmtwit
Desperate but not serious
What's it like on a digital camera like M10 or even the m240?
Chuffed Cheese
Established
What's it like on a digital camera like M10 or even the m240?
Not really those models and it's a pre-production sample:
https://www.35mmc.com/18/11/2017/7artisans-35mm-f2-pre-pro-sample-photos/
Huss
Mentor
"..Build quality is solid and compared to my Leica and Voigtlander lenses it feels somewhere between both, although closer to Voigtlander. I’ve no M-mount Zeiss lenses to compare, sadly."
Owning all those brands, Zeiss Cosina is no better than CV. Which makes sense as they are made in the same factory.
I agree with your rant, and like my 50 1.1 so much that I bought one in each finish. I did get them both used, which helped. It's my go to 50 even though I have others from Leica, Zeiss etc. One of them had the focus so far off I think that's why the owner sold it, and I also think it's because he tried to adjust it and failed.. It takes just a teeeny bit of movement to make a change.
Your photo of the close up of the Enfield gas tank with the bicycle in the back ground really is excellent. I'd get this lens if I didn't have as many 35mm lenses as I already do..
Owning all those brands, Zeiss Cosina is no better than CV. Which makes sense as they are made in the same factory.
I agree with your rant, and like my 50 1.1 so much that I bought one in each finish. I did get them both used, which helped. It's my go to 50 even though I have others from Leica, Zeiss etc. One of them had the focus so far off I think that's why the owner sold it, and I also think it's because he tried to adjust it and failed.. It takes just a teeeny bit of movement to make a change.
Your photo of the close up of the Enfield gas tank with the bicycle in the back ground really is excellent. I'd get this lens if I didn't have as many 35mm lenses as I already do..
geoffnik
Member
Mine was delivered today - Build quality seems no different to my VM 35/1.7 - solid, smooth damped focus and no slight wobble aperture ring that Emulsive has.
karateisland
Established
This lens is making me wish there were an easy way to use a 35mm on a CLE. Oooof.
Archlich
Well-known
I assume the lens barrel is made from brass? At 320 grams (per official literature) it's quite heavy for a 41mm long lens with a 43mm filter ring.
The 7 elements, 5 groups lens diagram looks extremely similar to the ZM C-Biogon 35/2.8 and CV Color-Skopar 35/2.5, which means it's a (prewar Sonnar-derived, not the symmetrical retrofocus one from the 1950s) Biogon. Performance should be good, especially on a digital M, as neither of the other two lenses suffer from focus shift.
The 7 elements, 5 groups lens diagram looks extremely similar to the ZM C-Biogon 35/2.8 and CV Color-Skopar 35/2.5, which means it's a (prewar Sonnar-derived, not the symmetrical retrofocus one from the 1950s) Biogon. Performance should be good, especially on a digital M, as neither of the other two lenses suffer from focus shift.
Chuffed Cheese
Established
Mine was delivered today - Build quality seems no different to my VM 35/1.7 - solid, smooth damped focus and no slight wobble aperture ring that Emulsive has.
where'd you get it?
Scapevision
Well-known
This lens is making me wish there were an easy way to use a 35mm on a CLE. Oooof.
There is. Guesstimate the framelines. I did it. You'll get used to it eventually.
taemo
eat sleep shoot
Mine was delivered today - Build quality seems no different to my VM 35/1.7 - solid, smooth damped focus and no slight wobble aperture ring that Emulsive has.
what's the retail price?
brbo
Well-known
Looking at the Emulsive review sample shots - distortion seems to be... (looking for a proper word) massive.
Maybe if you shoot digital and you correct for distortion anyway, but on film... it would drive me nuts on a carry-always semi-fast 35mm lens.
Maybe if you shoot digital and you correct for distortion anyway, but on film... it would drive me nuts on a carry-always semi-fast 35mm lens.
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