tomasis
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I noticed deepwhite posted some shoots in another thread. So I thought, why not collect some shoots here. Maybe we are too few but I post here some pics anyway.
the curious cat, I sweated a bit when I did approach a bit and the cat seems to be ready to leave. Boring shot of a cat, I know but I wanted show how the lens renders the surrounding. Warning 1500px wide (look at 100%)
http://tomasis.com/pix_SA/_EPS3325.jpg
Next is a car (nothing for them who hate cars
)
http://tomasis.com/pix_SA/_EPS3170.jpg
Enough of "test shots" above. Sorry for big pictures since I use 24"
Now for some usual pictures from Stockholm
http://tomasis.com/pix_SA/_EPS3635.jpg
http://tomasis.com/pix_SA/_EPS3618.jpg
http://tomasis.com/pix_SA/_EPS3462.jpg (iso 6400)
If you want, I can add more some
For me, SA is more than good plus I got nice compact size which is much more important together with good handling than higher resolution, sharpness, vignetting free. cheapest price etc. No need for biogon or CV for me but Im looking for 21mm Zeiss vf and CV 28/35
the curious cat, I sweated a bit when I did approach a bit and the cat seems to be ready to leave. Boring shot of a cat, I know but I wanted show how the lens renders the surrounding. Warning 1500px wide (look at 100%)
http://tomasis.com/pix_SA/_EPS3325.jpg
Next is a car (nothing for them who hate cars
)http://tomasis.com/pix_SA/_EPS3170.jpg
Enough of "test shots" above. Sorry for big pictures since I use 24"
Now for some usual pictures from Stockholm
http://tomasis.com/pix_SA/_EPS3635.jpg
http://tomasis.com/pix_SA/_EPS3618.jpg
http://tomasis.com/pix_SA/_EPS3462.jpg (iso 6400)
If you want, I can add more some
For me, SA is more than good plus I got nice compact size which is much more important together with good handling than higher resolution, sharpness, vignetting free. cheapest price etc. No need for biogon or CV for me but Im looking for 21mm Zeiss vf and CV 28/35
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Nice indeed ....Tomasis
From Clear & Crisp shots
to gritty, grainy & atmospheric vignetting shot
Well Done
Now I've got the Lust Bug again
Best to You - H
From Clear & Crisp shots
to gritty, grainy & atmospheric vignetting shot
Well Done
Now I've got the Lust Bug again
Best to You - H
cam
the need for speed
thank you, Tomasis! i hope you put up more. i hope deepwhite does as well!
deepwhite
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Back from work. Time to post photos. The problem is that I didn't have time to take new shots, so I can only post old ones for now.
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For those that haven't seen them, here's my first B/W shots with the Super-Angulon 21/3.4 & R-D1s, ISO 1600.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62053
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IMHO, the amazing thing about the Super-Angulon 21/3.4 is that it's really two lenses in one body, since they behave very differently in color shots and B/W.
[Test Shot]
This one was taken while I met with the original owner. It was a cloudy afternoon. The first impression I got from this lens was a "weird sense of blue and green". Also the vignetting on the left and right sides are quite interesting, because no other lens has vignetting like this from what I've seen. The other thing I've noticed is a special feeling when it's about to over-expose. I'm not a native English speaker and am really out of words....
[Snapshot in the Car]
Blue & green. Vignetting on left & right. Sharp. The SA21/3.4.
[This Used to be Someone's Home]
[A Special Spot]
The center spot is very different from its surroundings. Very neat.
[A Usual Scene in Taiwan Streets]
[I took a picture of someone who's waiting for someone while I was waiting for someone.]
[Close-up]
[High-end Lomo]
One thing people love about lomo is vignetting. To me, the SA21/3.4's vignetting on the left & right sides is more special, while it retains very good resolution and sharpness. For color shots, it's really a "high-end lomo" if we want to call it this way.
[Lamps]
By the evening, I found that the SA21/3.4 tended to render the world more blue-and-greenish. In this picture it did so to the background, and thus made the red & yellow lamps more distinguish.
[Evening Blue]
[Sign]
Another shot with blue & green background that makes the subject stands out.
[Before the Typhoon]
Bad weather. The SA21/3.4 gives this picture an "over-shadowing" atmosphere.
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I'm getting used to the characteristics of this lens these days, and I'd post some more shots that can show it when I got time.
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For those that haven't seen them, here's my first B/W shots with the Super-Angulon 21/3.4 & R-D1s, ISO 1600.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62053
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IMHO, the amazing thing about the Super-Angulon 21/3.4 is that it's really two lenses in one body, since they behave very differently in color shots and B/W.
[Test Shot]
This one was taken while I met with the original owner. It was a cloudy afternoon. The first impression I got from this lens was a "weird sense of blue and green". Also the vignetting on the left and right sides are quite interesting, because no other lens has vignetting like this from what I've seen. The other thing I've noticed is a special feeling when it's about to over-expose. I'm not a native English speaker and am really out of words....
[Snapshot in the Car]
Blue & green. Vignetting on left & right. Sharp. The SA21/3.4.
[This Used to be Someone's Home]
[A Special Spot]
The center spot is very different from its surroundings. Very neat.
[A Usual Scene in Taiwan Streets]
[I took a picture of someone who's waiting for someone while I was waiting for someone.]
[Close-up]
[High-end Lomo]
One thing people love about lomo is vignetting. To me, the SA21/3.4's vignetting on the left & right sides is more special, while it retains very good resolution and sharpness. For color shots, it's really a "high-end lomo" if we want to call it this way.
[Lamps]
By the evening, I found that the SA21/3.4 tended to render the world more blue-and-greenish. In this picture it did so to the background, and thus made the red & yellow lamps more distinguish.
[Evening Blue]
[Sign]
Another shot with blue & green background that makes the subject stands out.
[Before the Typhoon]
Bad weather. The SA21/3.4 gives this picture an "over-shadowing" atmosphere.
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I'm getting used to the characteristics of this lens these days, and I'd post some more shots that can show it when I got time.
morgan
Well-known
The lens looks great, I like it's character a lot. How much post-processing is in those? The colors are really saturated (in a good way to me) and very contrasty. My interest is piqued in this lens.
deepwhite
Well-known
Hi morgan,
The photos I post here, including the B/W ones in the link, are all JPG direct from R-D1s without post-processing. Sometimes I would boost 1 step of saturation in the R-D1s setting menu but that's it.
That's why I love this lens. It's a bit unreal (not good for every shot but great for some) without the need of post-processing. When making records I love to record everything the way I want them to be into the microphone, instead of "fixing them up" later, and I feel the same when taking pictures.
By the way, the contrasty look comes from the vignetting I think, because when I compare photos of the same scene with the SA21/3.4 and Summicron 35/2 IV, the latter is actually more contrasty, while they look in the opposite way when viewed on their own.
The photos I post here, including the B/W ones in the link, are all JPG direct from R-D1s without post-processing. Sometimes I would boost 1 step of saturation in the R-D1s setting menu but that's it.
That's why I love this lens. It's a bit unreal (not good for every shot but great for some) without the need of post-processing. When making records I love to record everything the way I want them to be into the microphone, instead of "fixing them up" later, and I feel the same when taking pictures.
By the way, the contrasty look comes from the vignetting I think, because when I compare photos of the same scene with the SA21/3.4 and Summicron 35/2 IV, the latter is actually more contrasty, while they look in the opposite way when viewed on their own.
mani
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Arrrgggghhh! So annoying! I bought a (quite expensive) Elmarit 21 2,8 a while ago and I never use it because it renders a scene more clinically than I like: whatever you see it just 'records' that. Now I realize what a dumb mistake I made - I love the dreamy mysterious look of this lens.
So... who wants to swop?
So... who wants to swop?
deepwhite
Well-known
More SA21/3.4 shots.
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One evening I was walking along the street and saw the beautiful sky. Suddenly I had a "vision", a "wicked version" of this beautiful sky I was looking at, if taken with the SA21/3.4 in R-D1s' B/W mode plus the yellow filter setting.
So I took the shots.
And the results were exactly as I imagined. Talking about "pre-visualization".... ;-) (joking)
Here are the shots:
To show you what the sky looks like in the real world, here is the "actually not wicked sky" taken about half a minute later, also with the SA21/3.4 and R-D1s.
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Now, go to ebay.com, search for "super angulon 21", and click on "Buy It Now"! ;-)
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One evening I was walking along the street and saw the beautiful sky. Suddenly I had a "vision", a "wicked version" of this beautiful sky I was looking at, if taken with the SA21/3.4 in R-D1s' B/W mode plus the yellow filter setting.
So I took the shots.
And the results were exactly as I imagined. Talking about "pre-visualization".... ;-) (joking)
Here are the shots:
To show you what the sky looks like in the real world, here is the "actually not wicked sky" taken about half a minute later, also with the SA21/3.4 and R-D1s.
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Now, go to ebay.com, search for "super angulon 21", and click on "Buy It Now"! ;-)
WoolenMammoth
Well-known
wonderful shots! Is there a big difference in look between the 3.4 and 4 versions of this lens?
Cindy Flood
Established
I too would like to sell my Zeiss 21 f/2.8 and buy a Super Angulon. I would like to know the differences between the f/3.4 and f/4 versions.
deepwhite
Well-known
I really don't know what's the difference between SA21/3.4 & SA21/4 leica-m. I went for the 3.4 only because I was inspired by the works of those that use SA21/3.4, like Tommy Oshima on flickr.
cam
the need for speed
Arrrgggghhh! So annoying! I bought a (quite expensive) Elmarit 21 2,8 a while ago and I never use it because it renders a scene more clinically than I like: whatever you see it just 'records' that. Now I realize what a dumb mistake I made - I love the dreamy mysterious look of this lens.
So... who wants to swop?
i'm in the same boat as you -- except that i got my lens as part of a package deal with the R-D1. after trying the SA, i would swap it in a minute!!!
i did a lot of research on this after finding a collector SA here (too dear with the exchange rate :bang: ). the f/4 is considered quite inferior to the f/3.4. with all the "features" of the 21mm SA (no metering, etc.), the f/4 is not worth bothering with... go straight to the SA 21/3.4 and get ready for a ride! you'll love it!
maddoc
... likes film again.
I should use the SA 21/3.4 more often ...
All taken on film ...
All taken on film ...
cam
the need for speed
arghhhhh! all these pics are killing me! i've purposely avoided Beaumarchais as i know i'll try that lens again and totally lose my will power...
anybody want to buy a 21/2.8 Elmarit late version pre-asph?
sigh.
anybody want to buy a 21/2.8 Elmarit late version pre-asph?
sigh.
morgan
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This lens is officially on the wish list. I just need to save up and find one. I love the character of it. Dare I say, kind of Holga-ish. What's the going rate these days? It's probably going up from this thread...
maddoc
... likes film again.
I have seen a couple of them in the last month in a range from 1200 - 1500 US$ (depending on condition and extras). I had to buy the hood extra (quite expensive on eBay) and was lucky to get the original front lens cap here at RFF for a very reasonable price.
morgan
Well-known
That doesn't seem too bad. There's a few on ebay for over 2k, which seems high to me.
deepwhite
Well-known
cam
the need for speed
OMG!!! we looked at the same exact lenses! LOL!!!
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deepwhite
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That's what I thought when I saw you mentioned "Beaumarchais".
I barely escaped from that street that afternoon. One camera I loved a lot was my Rollei 35S, and that day I saw almost all versions of the Rollei 35 in one store, including the special version that only 1200 were made......
The SA21/3.4 in the store is chrome, very beautiful. The one I got now is black. Luckily I got it with almost everything, including the hard to find filter.
By the way, I'm quite good at shooting with the SA21/3.4 on R-D1s without external VF now. I keep both eyes open and imagine a frameline that's about 9/5 of the size of the 35mm frameline.