boojum
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This is only a short YT blurb on a new camera and not much about how the images are but the concept is stunning and what Barth may have been trying for but may have missed by a large smidge. If it also is M42 it could be a real challenge. Are iPhones required or will Android [phones work? Thoughts?
How so? I mean, the Pixii clearly wants to be a mechanical rangefinder first. I don't get the appeal of the Alice at all.
After trying to get the DaVinci model to compute back-focus error and discovering it did not know the distributive law, AI stands for Artificial Idiot.
ptpdprinter
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What is AI about this camera? Auto exposure? Auto focus? Stabilization?
dourbalistar
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I dunno, Nikon began manufacturing AI lenses way back in 1977... 🤪
Austintatious
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As was stated in the youtube, this device is mostly made for vloging and ticktockers.
I am not certain it will hold much interest for photographers in the normal sense.
As always YMMV.
I am not certain it will hold much interest for photographers in the normal sense.
As always YMMV.
armadsen
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This looks like an interesting enough project, but I agree it has nothing in particular in common with the Pixii. Certainly nothing that would mean the Pixii people should be any more concerned than any other camera manufacturer. And probably less, because they seem to be pretty explicitly targeting vlogging and tiktok which the Pixii is very much not suited for.
boojum
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Hey, I only post the link. I am not PR for these folks. ;o) I found it interesting that they were able to attach the phone to the camera in a more clever way than Pixii which also can display images on your phone. It is an indication of a direction the camera business is going. And as much as I love the color of my M9/Amotal combo and Pixii/Amotal combo I am always interested in what is happening in the little boxes which describe cameras. The Alice "seems" to indicate that it takes a M42 mount lens. That would be super for those adopting it as there are a lot of those lenses around and the old Soviet lenses, KMZ Jupiters are the ones I like, can still be had for a reasonable price, but less so now.
If I missed the lens mount type give me a holler.
If I missed the lens mount type give me a holler.
JeffS7444
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Perhaps they weren't aware of DxO's The One, Sony's QX, and Olympus's Air.
Beats me why "Creators" would choose a Pixii in the first place, given that M system wasn't designed for autofocus, and with a typical close focus limit of 0.7m, not the sort of thing I'd expect to see mounted on a gimbal, and pointed towards it's user's face.
Beats me why "Creators" would choose a Pixii in the first place, given that M system wasn't designed for autofocus, and with a typical close focus limit of 0.7m, not the sort of thing I'd expect to see mounted on a gimbal, and pointed towards it's user's face.
armadsen
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It's a micro 4/3rds camera (aka M43), and it takes micro 4/3rds lenses made by Panasonic and others. Nothing to do with M42.The Alice "seems" to indicate that it takes a M42 mount lens. That would be super for those adopting it as there are a lot of those lenses around and the old Soviet lenses, KMZ Jupiters are the ones I like, can still be had for a reasonable price, but less so now.
ptpdprinter
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M42 is a typo. It should be M43.
boojum
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Design specs must cover all and everything. And it is so easy to screw up code and have it working "most of the time" and pass the demo for the brass. We both know that working "most of the time" is not good enough. It is 100% or late nights in front of the computer screen debugging code. And that lower level stuff is the work of the devil and it reeks of sulfur and brimstone. Even COBOL can be ugly and obscure and that is in English. "One test is worth a thousand opinions." But I digress. ;o)After trying to get the DaVinci model to compute back-focus error and discovering it did not know the distributive law, AI stands for Artificial Idiot.
boojum
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OK, I was not clear on that. Thanks.It's a micro 4/3rds camera (aka M43), and it takes micro 4/3rds lenses made by Panasonic and others. Nothing to do with M42.
Clearly not.Perhaps they weren't aware of DxO's The One, Sony's QX, and Olympus's Air.
I don't think they do...Beats me why "Creators" would choose a Pixii in the first place, given that M system wasn't designed for autofocus, and with a typical close focus limit of 0.7m, not the sort of thing I'd expect to see mounted on a gimbal, and pointed towards it's user's face.
boojum
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What attracted my attention was the attachment of the phone to the camera. This seemed very clever and unique to me. Arsenal (Arsenal 2 – Camera Body, Meet Camera Brain.) has a similar approach for attaching a phone to a camera and using their software to expand the capabilities of the camera. NB, the bridge in the Arsenal home screen is the one outside my window here in Astoria. My 15 milliseconds of fame? ;o)
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Here is my cynical (a.k.a. down to Earth) assessment:
M43 is dusty corner of technology. Some nice dude in UK is stubborn on it. He finds someone who wants to ride AI wave with some crap looking camera.
My conclusion:
"No time for losers". Queen. UK.
M43 is dusty corner of technology. Some nice dude in UK is stubborn on it. He finds someone who wants to ride AI wave with some crap looking camera.
My conclusion:
"No time for losers". Queen. UK.
cboy
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Seems so silly when you attach a phone that already has has several lenses attached onto what is essentially a phone accessory. It's not a camera since it's not standalone and does not work without the phone, hence a phone accessory.
I would of accepted it's form factor if not for the fact you have to attach the phone which looks clunky
I would of accepted it's form factor if not for the fact you have to attach the phone which looks clunky
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