kosta_g
Well-known
fellow rff'ers
if the price was right, and the condition very good, would you get a 35mm summicron type 1 (8 element), if it had goggles?
am i being silly worrying that this limits me (sort of) to using it on my m3?
If the goggles are removed I believe it will not focus correctly.
What would you do? I am not the "leica man" mr.rockwell speaks of. I hesitate!
if the price was right, and the condition very good, would you get a 35mm summicron type 1 (8 element), if it had goggles?
am i being silly worrying that this limits me (sort of) to using it on my m3?
If the goggles are removed I believe it will not focus correctly.
What would you do? I am not the "leica man" mr.rockwell speaks of. I hesitate!
Steinberg2010
Well-known
I have the goggled summaron, and the goggles definitely make my m3 feel bulky compared to the 40mm sum micron...
retnull
Well-known
My goggled v1 is the finest lens I own. I use it on the Konica RF. Yes, it's bigger than if it didn't have goggles...but also, it looks pretty badass.
Steve M.
Mentor
I had a goggled 35 Summaron on an M3 once. It was quite a Frankencamera, especially w/ an MR meter stuck on top. But when you saw the photos it took, none of that mattered, sorta. I eventually sold that kit (more for the weight factor of the camera/meter/and lens than any thing else) but the odd look of it all was an issue too.
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johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
That same lens can be used on all Leica M's, not just the M3.
I use a Summaron 35/2.8 on my M2 as well and they are also popular with M8 and M9 owners as well.
I use a Summaron 35/2.8 on my M2 as well and they are also popular with M8 and M9 owners as well.
kosta_g
Well-known
Oh I do realise that, just when you use it on a lower magnification finder it further reduces the magnification and makes it a bit more awkward to use.
Probably need to see some image samples from the lens in question!
Thanks guys
Probably need to see some image samples from the lens in question!
Thanks guys
Roger Hicks
Mentor
Why not? Theoretical objections are mostly just that -- theoretical!
Cheers,
R.
Cheers,
R.
rodt16s
Well-known
What is the other option..? not having.
Cheap and ugly is always a good combination.. hold on we're talking lenses..
The goggles do add major bulk, but if you're liking the results then look for a non-goggleised one later, because if these are cheap you'll sell without a loss either way.
Cheap and ugly is always a good combination.. hold on we're talking lenses..
The goggles do add major bulk, but if you're liking the results then look for a non-goggleised one later, because if these are cheap you'll sell without a loss either way.
Ronald M
Mentor
Have done so. Works fine on all M cameras. The advantage is I can see the 35 view with my glasses which I can not if the 35 mm frame lines come up.
The lens brings up 50 mm lines, but the view is widened so all of 35mm fits in side 50 mm lines.
No you can`t take off the goggles and have it focus properly.
The lens brings up 50 mm lines, but the view is widened so all of 35mm fits in side 50 mm lines.
No you can`t take off the goggles and have it focus properly.
Vics
Mentor
I have the Summaron on my M3, and don't find it bulky at all, but I do find that the goggles flare, even when the lens doesn't. Of course the lens has a hood on it and the goggles don't. I find the combo quite comfortable to use, though.
rogerzilla
Well-known
I wish I could afford any 35mm Summicron these days.
raid
Dad Photographer
I have a goggled V1, and if I did not have such a lens, I would not hesitate to buy one. Goggles are there, but this is unimportant to me. It is the quality of glass and workmanship that I admire in this lens.
I now also own a V1 Cron w/o goggles. Both are excellent lenses. The goggled lens cost me far more. It still is in "mint" condition. DAG inspected my V1. It is "fine", with some wipe marks.
I now also own a V1 Cron w/o goggles. Both are excellent lenses. The goggled lens cost me far more. It still is in "mint" condition. DAG inspected my V1. It is "fine", with some wipe marks.
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Rob-F
Likes Leicas
I would get it, especially if I didn't already have a version 1. It is useful on more than just the M3. When used on an M2 or other .72 finder, you can easily see the framelines while wearing glasses.
sc_rufctr
Leica nuts
I've been looking for a good 35mm Cron and there are goggled ones around but the goggles gives me pause.
Why?... I have a 135mm f/2.8 Elmarit-M with goggles and it's a great lens but the goggles are a hassle.
Not surprisingly it works best on my M3. It does work OK on my M4-P but it's much harder to focus compared to the M3.
Also... I love the M cameras because they are small. Small is not so important at 135mm but at 35mm I think it is.
So I would go with a non goggled version and pair it up with an M2 or M4 etc.
Why?... I have a 135mm f/2.8 Elmarit-M with goggles and it's a great lens but the goggles are a hassle.
Not surprisingly it works best on my M3. It does work OK on my M4-P but it's much harder to focus compared to the M3.
Also... I love the M cameras because they are small. Small is not so important at 135mm but at 35mm I think it is.
So I would go with a non goggled version and pair it up with an M2 or M4 etc.
d_c
Established
Yes, yes, yes! A Summicron is still a Summicron.
ferider
Mentor
There is an advantage of the googles that you don't get otherwise: 0.65m min. focus.
kosta_g
Well-known
there is also a disadvantage to the goggles - they turn the most flare-proof finder into a flare-prone one 
time to write a pros and cons list!
time to write a pros and cons list!
raid
Dad Photographer
Still; having a 35mm Cron is better than not having one.
From my M4 manual. Interesting that an early 70s manual has a lens from 1960 pictured.
Yes.
Robert Lai
Well-known
I had an 8-element Summicron with goggles, thinking that it would improve my 35mm framing for my M7 with 0.85 finder. It did do this, but it also made the finder somewhat flarey, as someone else mentioned above. Mine also produced a vertical discrepancy in the rangefinder. All of this was corrected when the lens was overhauled by Gus Lazzari.
In the meantime, I got a Summaron 2.8 as well as a Summicron 35 ASPH, so I didn't really feel the need for the v1 anymore. I sold quickly - I put it up for sale at my purchase price plus the CLA cost, with no profit.
If you don't have any other 35mm lens, it's a good lens - sharper wide open with less vignetting then the Summaron 3.5 wide open. But then the Summaron 3.5 really gives me that vintage look!
In the meantime, I got a Summaron 2.8 as well as a Summicron 35 ASPH, so I didn't really feel the need for the v1 anymore. I sold quickly - I put it up for sale at my purchase price plus the CLA cost, with no profit.
If you don't have any other 35mm lens, it's a good lens - sharper wide open with less vignetting then the Summaron 3.5 wide open. But then the Summaron 3.5 really gives me that vintage look!