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Nikon Nomad
My antique but sadly not collectable or even valuable PCs and laptops easily fall into that category. Admittedly, they can (technically) cope with large files, but processing times are such that I have many moments to make coffee, brush the cats and even clean the kitchen while they whirr away and do their thing and I wait and wait and wait for them to finish.
Not all of us own 2024 top-line hardware, after all.
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JohnGellings
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At 36mp if you can do all of that while a file is uploaded and processed, then sure a 24mp file would allow you to at least make coffee, brush the cats and clean most of kitchen (but not all). That's my point. It simply isn't much of a difference. Let's remember here that the camera is 12 years old and the computers from that time, which were at least 12 years old, could process the files.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
I don't think most needs more than 10MP. If they take pictures by optical zooms or just using cameras as most are using them like phone cameras, but better quality results which are not too relevant to MP.
I'm finding high ISO to be much more practical in regular use. This camera isn't impressive for it.
But if it is 400 dollars, low shutter count and not trashed, it is awesome price for FF DSLR.
I'm finding high ISO to be much more practical in regular use. This camera isn't impressive for it.
But if it is 400 dollars, low shutter count and not trashed, it is awesome price for FF DSLR.
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DownUnder
Nikon Nomad
They do exist. Believe me. But then I may have cornered the market on them...
Dogman
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Using Silver Efex Pro 3 software will yield a TIFF file well over 100 mb with 12 mp D3/D700 files. I forget how big they get as the mps increase but my old iMac (with maxed out memory) gets slower and slower and shows its age. I also no longer use the full 36 mp of the D800/D810. I think they're set to Medium Fine JPEG. Images look fine online and looked good in my prints when I printed. The old iMac doesn't wheeze while toiling away either. The iMac can handle the 36 mp files but it's happier not being stressed too much.
SWB
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It's a good price for 8000 shutter counts but if it's a backup camera it's not likely to be hammered so myself I'd go for one with more actuations that's even cheaper but still looks nice.
I've been causally looking for a D800 to have converted to IR and started by searching on eBay, but soon saw dealer prices are often much cheaper than private sellers want, and I get the sense the prices come down depending on how many a dealer has available. So I'm now browsing the MPB website where they have 27 (!) D800 for sale from £299 to £584.
sojournerphoto
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Park Cameras have a few too and maybe worth check Wex and Clifton.
My last experience with MPB was the purchase of an ‘As new’ battery grip for my S1r that turned out to be well worn and not to work. Then they didn’t refund my postage on return. I won’t use them again.
The positive outcome was that I then purchased a genuinely ‘as new’ grip from a seller on eBay and it cost less. I’ve since purchased his old S1r also, with just over 5,000 clicks.
SWB
Member
But given MPB photograph every item individually from different angles how did you miss it was worn? I mean if it doesn't work that's another thing, but in that case they should have reimbursed postage. I got a full refund because I'd wrongly ordered a lens that wouldn't cover the macro photo I wanted to make. I've bought a few things from them now and they are just about as honest as any other retailer and easier to deal with than most. We all find what we need eventually.
sojournerphoto
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The item delivered didn’t match the photo. It may have been a mix up - they had more than one in stock - but I returned it with a clear explanation that it wasn’t working and was worn and they refunded purchase price but not postage. They did pay the return postage.
To be fair, I’ve never had a problem before but it left a bad taste.
Mike
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In 2012, I had a computer built for me with just-below-top line specs. This computer continued to chug away with increasingly hard loads, and RAM upgrades did little to help it. Under the load of higher megapixel images and fatter mbps video codecs, it took about 12 hours to export a 1.5 hour fully edited film in 2019. And that was under the risk of the export not happening, or the computer blue screening at random times.
I really struggled with it until finally upgrading in early 2021, and what a ridiculous difference this made. A brand new computer with near top line specs in 2021 meant that the 1.5 hour film exported in about the same time! It utterly boggled my mind that I had laboured under those constraints for years. Mind you, the new computer was built by a wizard friend who was able to source components at excellent prices, so what would have been a $5000+ computer from a shop only cost me $2200.
JohnGellings
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I'm dying to know which specs this computer has that can handle 24mp files but not 36mp files. We are talking about single images. Not movies.
Pioneer
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I picked up a Pentax K5iiS a few years ago figuring at the time it would be all the camera I would ever need. For the first time since I started working with digital I was right! For those who like working with Nikon equipment I really have no idea why you would need anything more than an 800E but I'm sure someone will tell you. With those prices it will be hard to go wrong if you pick a good working example.
To be honest, for now, simple analogue film seems to be all I really need. It is really, really hard for me to beat a simple 4x5 camera using sheets of Portra 400 or Ektar 100 film. And if for some ungodly reason I do need more, then a sheet of Adox CMS 20 ii Pro outdoes all of it.
To be honest, for now, simple analogue film seems to be all I really need. It is really, really hard for me to beat a simple 4x5 camera using sheets of Portra 400 or Ektar 100 film. And if for some ungodly reason I do need more, then a sheet of Adox CMS 20 ii Pro outdoes all of it.
JohnGellings
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I can imagine ... but it is costly if you're prolific.
Pioneer
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You are right John but those prints are wonderful. I don't typically shoot as many frames with film as I do with digital. For me it is a different experience.
JohnGellings
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Very cool. It is something I would really love to do, but it is just hard to find 4x5" color film and processing in Chile. Even if it was here, it would be twice the price. Chemicals to do my own would be impossible to get here. I have no interest in B&W.
DownUnder
Nikon Nomad
Good one. More of us should do this. I'm about to dump my collection of (three) MacBook Air laptops as Lost Causes, and I happen to know an IT specialist who is also a computer builder extraordinaire, and who has offered on several occasions to custom-build me the PC of my dreams (if not fantasies).
In fact to build from scratch has been advised a few times over the years. The 'secret' to fast image processing is, it seems, in the RAM. A lot of memory also helps, altho' I'm now long past the stage of wanting to generate humongous TIFFs of all my pretty cat portrait from the 1960s onwards.
So I will be talking seriously to him about a new PC when I'm in Australia later this year. Many thanks for the good advice!!
Pioneer
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It has gotten expensive for everybody. I was fortunate to be able to store some in my freezer when it wasn't quite as hard on the budget. I hope you get a chance someday. Everyone should have an opportunity to work with the larger sheets of film if only for the experience, and maybe a nice photo of the family.