wolves3012
Mentor
+1. Under no circumstances do I support the theft of something that isn't yours but it has to be realised that the internet is global. Placing anything on it means you accept that someone, somewhere might (read: is likely to) steal it if they have a use for it. Since the internet IS global, you cannot protect against this by making laws which can only be enforced in parts of the globe. To believe otherwise is utterly naiive.
nukecoke
⚛Yashica
I agree.
Even if you put your photos offline on light poles they can still get stolen.
Or you can be like Getty images and sue everyone who steal your image. That's how Getty earning big pink Maos in China these days. Real good business.
DanskDynamit
Well-known
what about porn? what about child abuse pornography? what about guns and drugs selling? what about terrorism promotion?
Internet is global and it needs laws.
wolves3012
Mentor
I'm not suggesting we don't bother and just accept all this without trying. I'm merely pointing out reality. Despite laws, pornography, guns, drugs etc. ARE available still (at least, I believe so, since I don't have a desire to even look for them myself). The lack of global control and the unlikelihood of it ever happening means that new ways need to be found to address these things. And no, I don't have the solutions!
DanskDynamit
Well-known
yes! but they are punished! which makes a huge difference!
There are many countries that control different websites, ThePirateBay is blocked in many countries, even Facebook and google are blocked in the largest populated country. If a website does not control it's content, infringing copyright laws, they could block it if they (government) want to.
cheers
PKR
Mentor
I find it hard to believe you're that naive ?
seany65
Well-known
Does the EU think it's law is enforceable in the rest of the world?
A Japanese photographer puts some pics on a server that is in South Korea and a Filipino thief steals them and puts them on a server in Indonesia, Does the EU step and say "You naughty boy?"
A Japanese photographer puts some pics on a server that is in South Korea and a Filipino thief steals them and puts them on a server in Indonesia, Does the EU step and say "You naughty boy?"
RichC
Well-known
Try Googling...?
The directives are aimed at online platforms and similar organisations, not individuals like Joe or Jane Bloggs. Tumblr, Instagram, Flickr, YouTube and their ilk are the ones who will be poked in the eye for ignoring or playing fast and loose with copyrighted material.
The EU's population is over half a billion (the US is a third of a billion), so global online platforms can't afford to ignore Europe: it's too large. Online platforms that throw their toys out of the pram and refuse to cooperate will wither away and die... or at least become regional and thus of no importance. You may recall the EU online privacy regulations (GDPR) that came into force in May: most international organisations have already implemented them or will do so - including those in the US - despite protestations from some.
seany65
Well-known
But how are the platforms to know the stuff they host is 'stolen'?
How are the regulations going to be applied to platforms that have their offices and servers etc. outside Europe?
How are the regulations going to be applied to platforms that have their offices and servers etc. outside Europe?
ptpdprinter
Mentor
The platforms only know what is copyrighted if someone, i.e. the copyholder, tells them. Giant media companies do. That is what this is all about, not you and me.