dee
Well-known
I have just indulged in an ex-dem warranted X-M1 @£162 without any ancillaries .It will be around £180 with battery/strap/lens cap - free online manual .
At the price , I just wanted the 16-50 to extend the 27mm on the one year old X-Pro1 .
I tried the X-M1 out with the X-Pro 1 battery ,pending an OEM battery , the IQ is
excellent and the 'waist level finder ' LOL is useful .
I guess that this plastic compact is not considered a worthy part of the x- family ,
i would not have bought it at £600 plus , but It's going to be a great pocket camera with the 27mm .
Not much else worth considering at the price .
It's reasonably well built however , no worse than Sony offerings .
Does anyone have any experience of this camera ?
dee
At the price , I just wanted the 16-50 to extend the 27mm on the one year old X-Pro1 .
I tried the X-M1 out with the X-Pro 1 battery ,pending an OEM battery , the IQ is
excellent and the 'waist level finder ' LOL is useful .
I guess that this plastic compact is not considered a worthy part of the x- family ,
i would not have bought it at £600 plus , but It's going to be a great pocket camera with the 27mm .
Not much else worth considering at the price .
It's reasonably well built however , no worse than Sony offerings .
Does anyone have any experience of this camera ?
dee
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
I've had one for about a year - I picked up a clean used one when I grabbed a used XP1 and 35/2. My XM1 usually has worn one of the "toy" 24/8s but that's likely to change as I expect to be using Fuji X much more regularly with my new XP2.
I've been impressed with the XM1, it seems to be basically an XP1 stuffed into a simple body. I use an OVF on it with the 24 but have also enjoyed using the 35/2 with the LCD tilted up - an ersatz waist level finder like you said.
One thing I did to mine that really improved the handling was adding the Fuji grip extension - the bare camera is a little small for my hammy hands.
I think you'll like it - enjoy!
I've been impressed with the XM1, it seems to be basically an XP1 stuffed into a simple body. I use an OVF on it with the 24 but have also enjoyed using the 35/2 with the LCD tilted up - an ersatz waist level finder like you said.
One thing I did to mine that really improved the handling was adding the Fuji grip extension - the bare camera is a little small for my hammy hands.
I think you'll like it - enjoy!
Some people love these w/ a 27mm, but for my cash, I'd rather go for a used X-E1.
f16sunshine
Moderator
I posted this thread quite a while ago.
This grip was great for the XA1 which is the same body as the XM1.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153468
I agree with Mr Rockit. The XE1 is my choice as a compact Back up.
This grip was great for the XA1 which is the same body as the XM1.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153468
I agree with Mr Rockit. The XE1 is my choice as a compact Back up.
Axel
singleshooter
I use the X-M1 in the third year now. One of the smallest APS-C bodies you can get. The X-E1 is rather bulky compared with the X-M1.
The leather half-case from Fuji gives you an additional grip and saves the body in rough environment very well.
Waist level shooting is great with tilted up display.
Maybe I´ll buy an X-E one day. But it would and could be no replacement for my X-M1
The leather half-case from Fuji gives you an additional grip and saves the body in rough environment very well.
Waist level shooting is great with tilted up display.
Maybe I´ll buy an X-E one day. But it would and could be no replacement for my X-M1
shawn
Mentor
Agreed that the XE1/2 is larger than the XA/M-1. XA/M1 are very small and light. I have one that is converted to full spectrum. But I prefer having the EVF and traditional controls of the xe1/2 as a secondary or smaller/lighter body to pair with the XP2.
If you watch long enough you can find the XE2 for only a little more than the XE1 and it is a more responsive camera with better AF.
I carry the XE2/27mm (or 18mm) in a tiny Crumpler belt pouch. I have a larger think tank belt pouch that can hold the XP2 (with 18 or 27mm attached) and the 18-55 (or 14mm) below it or even a pair of primes back to back under it.
Shawn
If you watch long enough you can find the XE2 for only a little more than the XE1 and it is a more responsive camera with better AF.
I carry the XE2/27mm (or 18mm) in a tiny Crumpler belt pouch. I have a larger think tank belt pouch that can hold the XP2 (with 18 or 27mm attached) and the 18-55 (or 14mm) below it or even a pair of primes back to back under it.
Shawn
dee
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Thanks , everyone .
I have the X-Pro 1 , so the X-M 1 is a bonus .
I have no need for another X , I will be taking it out today , with the battery from the X-Pro until I buy another .
Again , the 27mm and 16-50 are enough for me.
dee
I have the X-Pro 1 , so the X-M 1 is a bonus .
I have no need for another X , I will be taking it out today , with the battery from the X-Pro until I buy another .
Again , the 27mm and 16-50 are enough for me.
dee
Axel
singleshooter
I think you will enjoy the X-M1 "as is".
Meanwhile mine carries only my manual fixed lenses instead of the zoom in the picture.
Never had such a comfortable "TLR" before...
Meanwhile mine carries only my manual fixed lenses instead of the zoom in the picture.
Never had such a comfortable "TLR" before...
Not in any way that could matter... it's not a matter of pocketable vs. not pocketable. Plus you get an EVF on the X-E1.
You just added the bulk you saved....
dee
Well-known
I quite like the case - it would give a touch of style and I don't need it to be so small .
Certainly , having taken it out now , I really like it - especially the twin dials for manual .
I don't have a comparison with others from the X series because there was no choice for the combined outlay as chance buys .
i like the idea of a half case though m maybe better for grip and appearance - but it would be a cheap Chinese version in Brown or Tan .
dee
Certainly , having taken it out now , I really like it - especially the twin dials for manual .
I don't have a comparison with others from the X series because there was no choice for the combined outlay as chance buys .
i like the idea of a half case though m maybe better for grip and appearance - but it would be a cheap Chinese version in Brown or Tan .
dee
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
I considered one of the half cases for mine but fell into the Fuji grip first. The grip is just right IMO.
This is embarrassing - I found a 27/2.8 that I forgot I had. I think I picked it up to keep on the X-M1 just before I had surgery last year.
This is embarrassing - I found a 27/2.8 that I forgot I had. I think I picked it up to keep on the X-M1 just before I had surgery last year.
Nice find...
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Lol. You know you have too much gear when...
dee
Well-known
I took the X-M1 out yesterday , and it's been elevated from a 16-50 lens donor for the X-Pro1 to a respected premium camera in it's own right .
I did indulge in a Fuji lens cap for the 16-50 , but went for a recommended OEM battery plus an old strap I had lying around , the idea is to keep it budget - after all , my new X-Pro 1 with new 27mm was just £318 a year ago . With case and modest Sandisk card , I should be able to keep within £200 , which compares OK with current competition .
What created the switch in perception of the X-M ?
As a considered snap shooter , I tend to adopt auto exposure on the X-Pro making much use of the compensation dial , sometimes inadvertently !
The twin exposure dials of the X-M ' shades of my Pentax K10D without the bulk , encourage easy manual use , so I have reverted to setting the shutter and varying exposure as required .
The flip screen is great as a TLR clone - even of overhead shots . I actually bought a used , £100 Sony A390 just for the waist level finder , knowing that entry level cameras are seldom thrashed .
For the most part , it will be paired with the 16-50 because the X-Pro 1 with 27mm is a perfect shoulder bag camera - I much prefer a fixed lens with this camera , it just feels right .
I have not had a camera with case post my SRT days , but the X-M is small enough for me to chase up a £7 case in a sale . My 70s cases were all vinyl , so I guess a vinyl case would be good enough - this is still a budget camera , after all .
i won't be taking alternative lenses , it's more likely that the X-Pro will be in my shoulder bag anyway .
Thanks for all the feedback .
dee
I did indulge in a Fuji lens cap for the 16-50 , but went for a recommended OEM battery plus an old strap I had lying around , the idea is to keep it budget - after all , my new X-Pro 1 with new 27mm was just £318 a year ago . With case and modest Sandisk card , I should be able to keep within £200 , which compares OK with current competition .
What created the switch in perception of the X-M ?
As a considered snap shooter , I tend to adopt auto exposure on the X-Pro making much use of the compensation dial , sometimes inadvertently !
The twin exposure dials of the X-M ' shades of my Pentax K10D without the bulk , encourage easy manual use , so I have reverted to setting the shutter and varying exposure as required .
The flip screen is great as a TLR clone - even of overhead shots . I actually bought a used , £100 Sony A390 just for the waist level finder , knowing that entry level cameras are seldom thrashed .
For the most part , it will be paired with the 16-50 because the X-Pro 1 with 27mm is a perfect shoulder bag camera - I much prefer a fixed lens with this camera , it just feels right .
I have not had a camera with case post my SRT days , but the X-M is small enough for me to chase up a £7 case in a sale . My 70s cases were all vinyl , so I guess a vinyl case would be good enough - this is still a budget camera , after all .
i won't be taking alternative lenses , it's more likely that the X-Pro will be in my shoulder bag anyway .
Thanks for all the feedback .
dee
Axel
singleshooter
Did I write "pocketable" ?
Like getting a milk shake extra when ordering a menue at a big american restaurant?
scnr
But you have to regret the loss of the tilting mechanism which makes the X-M so practically for the kind of shooting the threadopener plans to do.
Shure.
Until you add a halfcase to an X-E.
Otherwise - really try to make an X-E pocketable.
When you strip it down to the size of an X-M (without halfcase
)you sure have sawn away parts that are elementary for its function.
Why? Because some people call an X-100 "pocketable".
To make it just a bit clearer - the size-step down to an ultimative pocketable camera like the F900EXR is smaller
than the upstep to the X-E.
dee
Well-known
I guess I don't need the comparison -
With a new bargain X-Pro 1 AND a new bargain X-M1 , I am content .... although come 5 years or so , I may be looking out for a lost X-Pro 2 body lurking in a cabinet ...
dee
With a new bargain X-Pro 1 AND a new bargain X-M1 , I am content .... although come 5 years or so , I may be looking out for a lost X-Pro 2 body lurking in a cabinet ...
dee
Did I write "pocketable" ?
No, but that is usually what makes or breaks a camera with regard to gaining a little extra weight or size.
Ok, if you really think that an extra framing mechanism is superfluous.
Fair enough...
I wouldn't use a half case for protection on a cheap camera.
When you strip it down to the size of an X-M (without halfcase
you sure have sawn away parts that are elementary for its function.
Axel
singleshooter
Its not extra. It is instead of in this case.
And I don´t care if cheap or not - if it´s broken it doesn´t take photos.
And sometimes you are far out.
Like this thread meanwhile
Kind regards and have a nice Sunday!
dee
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Half case ordered for my cheap camera LOL , but lashed out £12 for the leather option .
dee
dee