kevin m
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None at all. But the preponderance of at-home shots taken with this lens seems to indicate that most owners are scared to take the thing out in public. Hence, it's less-than-useful for its intended purpose.
Me neither. Everyone has their comfort point, and this lens exceeds mine (in both cost and bulk.) Too many shelf-queens in the Leica catalog, so their "perfection" becomes a moot point.
Roger Hicks
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Dear Kevin,
No argument on either point, except that there are always a few people who really do use them, at which point it is genuinely useful.
Cheers,
Roger
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
So what? Some bash Noctiluxes, some bash Leica, some bash FSU gear, some bash expensive gear, some bash cheap gear, some bash luddites, some bash progress, some bash Bush, some bash zooms, some bash digital. It's the Internet for God's sake. Everybody bashes something, especially as long as we don't have to talk about pictures. You probably bash something, too.
Posters who like something that is frequently bashed sometimes develop a rather charming defiantist attitude towards it where they invite more bashing. Ned has this with the Noctilux which he now proudly advertises in his signature and location field. I think it's funny; it makes the forum a little bit more colourful anyway.
Philipp
kevin m
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True. And our Ned is one of the rare shooters who not only actually uses the thing, but uses it to its strengths.
People are just silly, that's all. When this lens was affordable, it was no big deal; now that it's price has gone into orbit, it's become the holy grail of lenses. Most of us would be better served paying more attention to the craft of photography than obsessing about gear that won't make nearly as much difference in results as we imagine.
mfunnell
Shaken, so blurred
I'm glad I've avoided one, then. I mean, how low can one go......Mike
(and, please, spare me the lawyers and politicians - I'll concede those points before you get started)
pvdhaar
Peter
Good advice Roger, though I even carry it somewhat further. My litmus test for deciding buying something:
I imagine holding a lens or camare at arms length above the pavement, then imagine dropping it. And if I can't do that without flinching an eye, I can't afford it..
Roger Hicks
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Dear Peter,
I must flinch too easily -- I'd never buy ANYTHING with that test!
Good idea, though.
Cheers,
Roger
I must flinch too easily -- I'd never buy ANYTHING with that test!
Good idea, though.
Cheers,
Roger
MikeL
Go Fish
My litmus test:
I imagine holding a lens or camare at arms length above the pavement, then imagine dropping it. My wife is standing next to me with the receipt for the item. And if I can't do that without losing an eye, I can't afford it..