Noserider
Christiaan Phleger
Whoa! Anyone see what Nikon has stuffed into the new 50 1.8? Even at list price that a lot of juicy optical bits for the money.
http://www.nikon-image.com/products/nikkor/zmount/nikkor_z_50mm_f18_s/spec.html
http://www.nikon-image.com/products/nikkor/zmount/nikkor_z_50mm_f18_s/spec.html
NicolasCooper
Member
The new S line primes 20/35/50/85 1.8 are what makes me really like the Z System approach so far. These are lenses that were very popular in F mount, just updated optical performance and specs like slightly closer focussing. Really looking forward to these lenses!
The only problem is that they will compete with my M lenses of the same FL ;-)
Cheers
The only problem is that they will compete with my M lenses of the same FL ;-)
Cheers
Contarama
Well-known
It's a start I guess... I don't know much about this novel big throat mini stuff I'll admit...electromagnetic diaphragm... I'm trying to wrap my head around that
Sumarongi
Registered Vaudevillain
Whoa! Anyone see what Nikon has stuffed into the new 50 1.8? Even at list price that a lot of juicy optical bits for the money.
http://www.nikon-image.com/products/nikkor/zmount/nikkor_z_50mm_f18_s/spec.html
415g?
NicolasCooper
Member
415g?
Interestingly the nikkor Z 35 1.8 weighs only 370g. Is that better?
https://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/z-mount/z_35mmf18s/spec.htm
Sumarongi
Registered Vaudevillain
Interestingly the nikkor Z 35 1.8 weighs only 370g. Is that better?
https://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/z-mount/z_35mmf18s/spec.htm
...and a 62mm filter size? Must be Medium Format lenses, I guess?
p.giannakis
Pan Giannakis
I thought the idea of mirrorless was smaller size. Am i wrong?
Sumarongi
Registered Vaudevillain
I thought the idea of mirrorless was smaller size. Am i wrong?
Maybeperhapsnotsounlikely we were absolutelytotallycompletely wrong
Additionally, if you want your aperture control being part of the lens, you need this huuuuuuge chunk of an adapter:
Huss
Mentor
I thought the idea of mirrorless was smaller size. Am i wrong?
If you are looking at m43/aps-c, yes.
Why would you assume a 'full frame' sensor would make for a smaller body? You still need the same sized AF lenses to cover that sensor. Advantages are the removal of the mirror, focusing directly off the sensor, etc etc.
Check the monstrous size of the Leica SL with 50 1.4 lens.
Akshully my Sigma Art 50 is huge too, and the Zeiss Otus!! Wow! Now I've forgotten what my point was...
(want small - either m43/aps-c or Leica M)
Sumarongi
Registered Vaudevillain
If you are looking at m43/aps-c, yes.
Why would you assume a 'full frame' sensor would make for a smaller body? You still need the same sized AF lenses to cover that sensor. Advantages are the removal of the mirror, focusing directly off the sensor, etc etc.
Check the monstrous size of the Leica SL with 50 1.4 lens.
Akshully my Sigma Art 50 is huge too, and the Zeiss Otus!! Wow! Now I've forgotten what my point was...
(want small - either m43/aps-c or Leica M)
"Advantages are the removal of the mirror" --- well, that 27.5 mm (edit: or even 30.5 mm?) piece that the camera body is now thinner than an SLR of the same make, is now -- necessarily -- added on all but very few lenses.
So it's a not so small weight addition on each lens -- still an advantage?
(Erm, IMHO, the true RF concept is still superior, heck, even a humble Leicaflex is still superior )
lynnb
Mentor
I think optical excellence rather than size was the priority for both Nikon and Canon's new mirrorless lens offerings. They'll probably release smaller (slower) versions later, after the well-heeled early adopters buy first.
I read somewhere recently that the "mine is bigger than yours" mindset is still a significant factor in consumer purchases. Also explains why Canon's white L lenses were desirable, apart from their optical characteristics: they stood out more.
I read somewhere recently that the "mine is bigger than yours" mindset is still a significant factor in consumer purchases. Also explains why Canon's white L lenses were desirable, apart from their optical characteristics: they stood out more.
taemo
eat sleep shoot
they definitely achieved the goal of lighter camera gears by going mirrorless.
however with the advent of high megapixel full-frame sensors, they are being held back by the current lenses.
IMO Fuji nailed it by not jumping into the saturated FF market.
If you want something small and light then go Fuji X, if you want best IQ and don't mind the size then go GFX
however with the advent of high megapixel full-frame sensors, they are being held back by the current lenses.
IMO Fuji nailed it by not jumping into the saturated FF market.
If you want something small and light then go Fuji X, if you want best IQ and don't mind the size then go GFX
karateisland
Established
Anyone been using this lens on a Z body? The price point makes it mighty tempting.
I thought the idea of mirrorless was smaller size. Am i wrong?
Initially it was but not anymore...
karateisland
Established
Initially it was but not anymore...
From my reading, it appears that Nikon is starting with their most optically advanced lenses, and following up with smaller/less expensive lenses. Not all is lost.
https://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2018/08/great-news-from-nikon.html
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From my reading, it appears that Nikon is starting with their most optically advanced lenses, and following up with smaller/less expensive lenses. Not all is lost.
https://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2018/08/great-news-from-nikon.html
How do they go smaller and cheaper than f1.8 primes and f4 zooms? Look at how Sony FF bodies have grown since the first tiny ones.
karateisland
Established
How do they go smaller and cheaper than f1.8 primes and f4 zooms? Look at how Sony FF bodies have grown since the first tiny ones.
By compromising somewhat on performance, right? Though, I'd prefer if they did it by going manual focus.
From my reading, it appears that Nikon is starting with their most optically advanced lenses, and following up with smaller/less expensive lenses. Not all is lost.
https://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2018/08/great-news-from-nikon.html
By compromising somewhat on performance, right? Though, I'd prefer if they did it by going manual focus.
I don’t think we will see those $100 50mm lenses for this system... but maybe a $250 50mm f2 or something like that.
raid
Dad Photographer
Is the cost around $800? Isn't the 50/1.8G the best bargain Nikkor so far?
35photo
Well-known
they definitely achieved the goal of lighter camera gears by going mirrorless.
however with the advent of high megapixel full-frame sensors, they are being held back by the current lenses.
IMO Fuji nailed it by not jumping into the saturated FF market.
If you want something small and light then go Fuji X, if you want best IQ and don't mind the size then go GFX
All Fuji did is follow there history really.... The FF market is very saturated plus they didn't have any history in that landscape... APC made good sense... X-Trans sensor is it achilles heel I don't care what anyone says... I had the XPro2 nice camera...sensor is flawed with the smearing of detail, watercolor effect..etc Medium Format made perfect sense with there history in that landscape plus that's more a niche market but still has plenty of room to grow...
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