Huss
Mentor
Perhaps others are aware of this, but VR is terrible for sharpness at long exposures.
Scanning film at base ISO, such that I do, results in timings in the seconds per exposure.
This one was 6 secs @ ISO 64 @f11. With VR on (in body, 60mm Micro G lens, FTZ adapter), it's blurry.
With VR off, sharp.
I am using the ES-2 film holder, 60mm G lens, FTZ, Z7, hand held:
Scanning film at base ISO, such that I do, results in timings in the seconds per exposure.
This one was 6 secs @ ISO 64 @f11. With VR on (in body, 60mm Micro G lens, FTZ adapter), it's blurry.
With VR off, sharp.
I am using the ES-2 film holder, 60mm G lens, FTZ, Z7, hand held:
bmattock
Mentor
VR should be turned off for any stable platform as well. For example, on a tripod.
Hand-holding 6 seconds is impressive, nothing I would even attempt, so well done.
Hand-holding 6 seconds is impressive, nothing I would even attempt, so well done.
css9450
Mentor
You're doing 6 seconds hand-held? Surely I am reading that wrong.
EDIT: I just realized the film holder is attached to the lens so maybe it doesn't matter....
EDIT: I just realized the film holder is attached to the lens so maybe it doesn't matter....
Huss
Mentor
You're doing 6 seconds hand-held? Surely I am reading that wrong.
EDIT: I just realized the film holder is attached to the lens so maybe it doesn't matter....
Exactly, the film holder is rigidly attached to the lens, essentially one piece.
So I can wave that thing around and still get a steady shot.
Usually the exposures are about 1/2 sec, but I was using my ceiling light as a light source not my usual light pad, as I was just testing the camera to make sure it is ok for film scanning. Cuz now I can sell my D850.
PaulDalex
Dilettante artist
I use a powerful lamp and I get exposures of 1/30-1/80 at iso 200 and F8
Besides I have no VR at all
Besides I have no VR at all
Huss
Mentor
I use a powerful lamp and I get exposures of 1/30-1/80 at iso 200 and F8
Besides I have no VR at all
I use ISO 64 - 2 stops less than ISO200, and f11 - one stop less than f8.
3 stops less exposure than you, so pretty much your powerful lamp is equal to me using my lightpad.
Never used VR before as my other cameras did not have it. So this was an interesting experiment.
willie_901
Mentor
Here's some data with the Z7 with a Nikon 180 mm f/2.8 lens. But, the longest shutter time was 1/60s.
IBIS tests.
Shutter shock data
IBIS with a Nikon S 24-70/4 – hand held.
Here the longest shutter time was 1/20 s.
IBIS tests.
Shutter shock data
IBIS with a Nikon S 24-70/4 – hand held.
Here the longest shutter time was 1/20 s.
PaulDalex
Dilettante artist
Hi Huss,
what shutter speed?
Actually I have a big problem with my lamp because I will need to protect my eyes or risk some damage going forward to archive my slides
Here is a link:
https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B019MISIPY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
what shutter speed?
Actually I have a big problem with my lamp because I will need to protect my eyes or risk some damage going forward to archive my slides
Here is a link:
https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B019MISIPY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Huss
Mentor
Hi Huss,
what shutter speed?
Actually I have a big problem with my lamp because I will need to protect my eyes or risk some damage going forward to archive my slides
Here is a link:
https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B019MISIPY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y21WQYQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
at iso 64, f11, pointing the camera directly at it, depending on negative density shutter speed varies from 1/4 to 1 sec
My VR test was just pointed at my ceiling light which had a much lower intensity due to distance etc which resulted in the 6 sec exposure.
ColSebastianMoran
( IRL Richard Karash )
Huss, this is an exotic case. VR doesn't know the Negative is being held rigid-to-the-camera while whole rig moves during hand held exposure. It's trying to compensate as though you are pointed at a fixed scene.
I say, "Turn off VR when using the Nikon Digitizer."
I say, "Turn off VR when using the Nikon Digitizer."
Huss
Mentor
Huss, this is an exotic case. VR doesn't know the Negative is being held rigid-to-the-camera while whole rig moves during hand held exposure. It's trying to compensate as though you are pointed at a fixed scene.
I say, "Turn off VR when using the Nikon Digitizer."
Actually Nikon just announced a recall for VR issues on the Z cameras!
Not all are affected but mine is. One checks by entering the camera's serial # on Nikon's site. I dropped it off yesterday, they said it will be ready in a week.
ColSebastianMoran
( IRL Richard Karash )
Actually Nikon just announced a recall for VR issues on the Z cameras!
Not all are affected but mine is. One checks by entering the camera's serial # on Nikon's site. I dropped it off yesterday, they said it will be ready in a week.
Good luck with repairs. Bravo Nikon for identifying problem and recalling.
albertospa
Established
Do any of you use the camera to scan 6x6 film? With which tool?
Huss
Mentor
Do any of you use the camera to scan 6x6 film? With which tool?
Yes. I use a copystand, light pad and lomo digitliza film holder.
and negativelabpro.com for film conversion.
albertospa
Established
Thank you Huss. Can the Lomo digitliza film holder also be used with a common plane scanner?
Arved
Member
Thank you Huss. Can the Lomo digitliza film holder also be used with a common plane scanner?
"It's the first of its kind and compatible with most flatbed scanners available in the market." - https://shop.lomography.com/en/digitaliza-120-scanning-mask (emphasis added)
I don't see an advantage over the 120 film mask for my Canon Canoscan 9000F. Am I missing something?
Respectfully,
- Arved
dourbalistar
Buy more film
"It's the first of its kind and compatible with most flatbed scanners available in the market." - https://shop.lomography.com/en/digitaliza-120-scanning-mask (emphasis added)
I don't see an advantage over the 120 film mask for my Canon Canoscan 9000F. Am I missing something?
Respectfully,
- Arved
Just a few lines above your quote... Overlapping exposures and panoramas, for example?
Huss
Mentor
"It's the first of its kind and compatible with most flatbed scanners available in the market." - https://shop.lomography.com/en/digitaliza-120-scanning-mask (emphasis added)
I don't see an advantage over the 120 film mask for my Canon Canoscan 9000F. Am I missing something?
Respectfully,
- Arved
It's just a film holder that uses magnets to hold the film and keep it flat.
If you have a film holder that works there is no reason to change.
Arved
Member
Thanks for the quick reply.
- Arved
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