Pioneer
Mentor
Nice photograph and wonderful response. Thanks for posting it.
markjwyatt
Well-known
Not sure if you are referring to my picture of a butcher, but yes it was the same person (Antonio Castagna) who commented and liked a Youtube video (of himself playing a piece).
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Speaking about unusual. Most if not all of the English writing photo forums are very flat on comments.
I get used to it and it was very different on Russian writing RF forum.
G. Romanov, he was posting here, once called my photo as ЧБГ. Literally BW poop. It took me a while to realize it was meaning of moody BW picture been on the different side from good looking, but nothing special BW.
I get used to it and it was very different on Russian writing RF forum.
G. Romanov, he was posting here, once called my photo as ЧБГ. Literally BW poop. It took me a while to realize it was meaning of moody BW picture been on the different side from good looking, but nothing special BW.
boojum
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Different cultures have different customs, mores and styles. There was a contretemps here a while ago about "gear porn" with a classical scholar being offended about the meaning of porn in Ancient Greek IIRC. Few of us today speak or write Ancient Greek and have all pretty much moved away from its constructs and dicta. It has less meaning than the use of a word in English that might be current in another western language with a different meaning.
So while it may be perfectly acceptable to be forthright to verging on rude in Russian critical circles it is pretty much frowned upon in Anglo-American ones, which includes the land of Peace, Order and Good Government. While we may have some discussion groups which feature ear-biting and eye-gouging it is not the norm. It's a good thing we cannot read each other's thoughts. ;o)
Michael Markey
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In English society its generally not considered polite to comment unless you have something positive to say .Even if you are moved to taking a dislike to something .In such a case its considered proper to employ feint praise as in "I was surprised that you took that approach ". Definition of damn with faint praise. : to give praise without enthusiasm in a way that shows one really dislikes someone or something.
Richard G
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I thought ptpdprinter’s contribution was very gentle and revealed nothing of his/her views on art or nudity. Forgive my excessive care with gender just there. I have been too inattentive. Another wonder of the forums is getting to know first names when they’re not evident.
I like the tones of the picture and I also like that piano. I’m not offended by the picture. Nor do I think it strays too far. But the discussion reminds me of a black and white nude by photoNYtexas here many years ago, a young but mature blonde in bed resting on one elbow square to camera looking calmly straight at the camera. The lighting and tones were very fine and subtle but it was really all in her eyes and her expression, and by extension the intelligence of that model and of the photographer.
Not saying that wasn’t the case here. It’s just what I remember, and of how back then even the right nude was not out of court. A young woman in a black dress on top of a piano might seem a safer proposal, but it may not be so.
In all public offerings picking and knowing your audience is a good starting point.
I like the tones of the picture and I also like that piano. I’m not offended by the picture. Nor do I think it strays too far. But the discussion reminds me of a black and white nude by photoNYtexas here many years ago, a young but mature blonde in bed resting on one elbow square to camera looking calmly straight at the camera. The lighting and tones were very fine and subtle but it was really all in her eyes and her expression, and by extension the intelligence of that model and of the photographer.
Not saying that wasn’t the case here. It’s just what I remember, and of how back then even the right nude was not out of court. A young woman in a black dress on top of a piano might seem a safer proposal, but it may not be so.
In all public offerings picking and knowing your audience is a good starting point.
Yokosuka_Mike
Abstract Clarity
Sometimes a thread comes along that makes you really want to jump in and say something. Something profound! Sum the whole situation up with a few clever words and put the whole thing to rest. Done and dusted. Well, I guess that’s not going to happen here, at least not by me.
The thread title “Unique or unusual comments or reactions to photos” seems to have taken on a life of its own. The original photo of the woman on the piano has been referred to as “cheesecake” and “a snapshot”. I don’t know why it gets this sort of treatment. Poorly composed pictures of uninteresting content (that are out-of-focus to boot), are posted here at RFF everyday and nobody says anything. The OP posted a studio quality picture and people are suddenly exercising their right to criticize it because it’s posted here and therefore it’s free game. Why?
My take on the original post is that the title in conjunction with the post is confusing. However, the picture of the girl on the piano is above average. The OP and the model obviously put great effort into the photograph; hardly a snapshot in my opinion. I wish I had a model that would pose for me. A lot of people at RFF consistently/excessively use their family members as their subjects for portraits. Nobody says anything about that.
Selective criticism is an interesting thing. Why does one image get nailed to the cross and another gets a pass? That’s life I guess.
All the best,
Mike
The thread title “Unique or unusual comments or reactions to photos” seems to have taken on a life of its own. The original photo of the woman on the piano has been referred to as “cheesecake” and “a snapshot”. I don’t know why it gets this sort of treatment. Poorly composed pictures of uninteresting content (that are out-of-focus to boot), are posted here at RFF everyday and nobody says anything. The OP posted a studio quality picture and people are suddenly exercising their right to criticize it because it’s posted here and therefore it’s free game. Why?
My take on the original post is that the title in conjunction with the post is confusing. However, the picture of the girl on the piano is above average. The OP and the model obviously put great effort into the photograph; hardly a snapshot in my opinion. I wish I had a model that would pose for me. A lot of people at RFF consistently/excessively use their family members as their subjects for portraits. Nobody says anything about that.
Selective criticism is an interesting thing. Why does one image get nailed to the cross and another gets a pass? That’s life I guess.
All the best,
Mike
retinax
Well-known
I would be a little disturbed by receiving just a link to a youtube video of music as a response to a picture (if I understand correctly). A) the person assumes I have time to listen rather than reading a few words as was the common understanding of using a medium where one gets comments on photos, sort of rude. B) I'd wonder if the person is fishing for compliments, upvotes or whatever for the linked item.
If one associates something, that can be verbalized and an additional like doesn't hurt.
As to the criticism. I think it's a little weird to post something and expect only positive responses. Yes, we don't want to be overly negative. But if a few positive comments have been put out there already, or the person posting appears experienced enough to not be too easily discouraged, it's healthy, no? I think of rff as being among friends and honesty is a marker of friendship.
If one associates something, that can be verbalized and an additional like doesn't hurt.
As to the criticism. I think it's a little weird to post something and expect only positive responses. Yes, we don't want to be overly negative. But if a few positive comments have been put out there already, or the person posting appears experienced enough to not be too easily discouraged, it's healthy, no? I think of rff as being among friends and honesty is a marker of friendship.
Rayt
Nonplayer Character
People generally will not leave a nasty (or honest) comment for a bad photo but instead be creative about it like “good use of depth” or “nice tones” or “delicious grain” without making any substantive remarks. The worst insult I got was “nice presentation”.
markjwyatt
Well-known
Art complimented with art?
Pál_K
Cameras. I has it.
“Nice tones” is faint praise? I didn’t realize that. I pay a lot of attention to tonality and it’s something I have struggled with when making prints. I can think of numerous photos I’ve spent all night printing, sometimes over many nights, trying to get the tones and contrast just right. So, at least for me, when I give the comment “nice tones”, I’m serious and the photographer can consider it high praise.
boojum
Mentor
Here are the vagaries of the printed word as opposed to "polite" conversation. Without the spoken inflection, emphasis and delivery it is hard to suss out the "damning with faint praise" while someone would be obvious in speaking a compliment of "good tones" if they meant it. Worry not.
Yokosuka_Mike
Abstract Clarity
Precisely. If one looks for an insult one will find an insult.
Looking for happiness on the internet, in a forum... it's there if we want to find it.
I am no stranger to making a fool of myself. I've said so many stupid immature things in my life, there should be a country western song written about me and sung by Johnny Cash! A boy named put my foot in my mouth!
Anyway, it's really all about respect.
All the best,
Mike
Looking for happiness on the internet, in a forum... it's there if we want to find it.
I am no stranger to making a fool of myself. I've said so many stupid immature things in my life, there should be a country western song written about me and sung by Johnny Cash! A boy named put my foot in my mouth!
Anyway, it's really all about respect.
All the best,
Mike
raydm6
Yay! Cameras! 🙈🙉🙊┌( ಠ_ಠ)┘ [◉"]
I agree with Mike. Respect.
All action we do inside our karate dojo precedes and ends with a bow (rei) (whether standing or kneeling). There are several variations, circumstances, and connotations. "Karate begins and ends with respect." (Funakoshi)
We bow before entering and when leaving the dojo; we do a kneeling bow to the front (shomen) of the dojo and clap twice to begin and end class (to the shomen, then Sensei, then a partner); we bow to each other before doing bunkai or kumite exercises; we bow at the beginning of kata; we bow to the Sensei after he demonstrates a technique for us to practice. It's built into the system for a reason: formality, respect, etiquette, courtesy, gratitude, reverence. and frankly - safety (as practice can be quite violent and we want to avoid misunderstandings) - to name a few... ...and I try to carry this practice in my daily life as well.
And, I hope brusby starts posting again as I enjoy his photography. He is a very good photographer as are many of you.
Respectfully 禮,
Ray
All action we do inside our karate dojo precedes and ends with a bow (rei) (whether standing or kneeling). There are several variations, circumstances, and connotations. "Karate begins and ends with respect." (Funakoshi)
We bow before entering and when leaving the dojo; we do a kneeling bow to the front (shomen) of the dojo and clap twice to begin and end class (to the shomen, then Sensei, then a partner); we bow to each other before doing bunkai or kumite exercises; we bow at the beginning of kata; we bow to the Sensei after he demonstrates a technique for us to practice. It's built into the system for a reason: formality, respect, etiquette, courtesy, gratitude, reverence. and frankly - safety (as practice can be quite violent and we want to avoid misunderstandings) - to name a few... ...and I try to carry this practice in my daily life as well.
And, I hope brusby starts posting again as I enjoy his photography. He is a very good photographer as are many of you.
Respectfully 禮,
Ray