Tom A
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The lens is fixed. The switch is the on/off switch for the metering and camera functions.
paulhart
Established
I have the 667W and find it well worth the investment. Superb optics, easy handling and the best finder in a 120 Rf ever!
I also have the 667W and agree with Tom about the finder. Big, clear, bright, free of distortion, clear frames, simple exposure info. This camera may be expensive, but it's worth the money.
celluloidprop
Well-known
I do hope that Fuji starts importing the GF670W directly, as they have the GF670. That would cut the price almost in half if things follow suit.
Leigh Youdale
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To Celluloidprop - I refer you to Tom's earlier post and suggest a dash of realism here. My three Rolleiflex cost $1500, $2500 and $3500. The lowest cost one is standard focal length and was practically given away from an estate sale. Half of that cost went on a CLA. The others worked well enough as received not to need that. All three cameras are over 50 years of age.
You're dreaming if you think a new 667W will come down to half the present cost under any scenario you imagine.
You're dreaming if you think a new 667W will come down to half the present cost under any scenario you imagine.
It is not cheap by any means - but it is a brand new camera with top-of-the line specs. Have you priced a Rolliewide lately? Or even a Hasselblad 500CM in as new condition with a 50mm lens in similar condition.
I have the 667W and find it well worth the investment. Superb optics, easy handling and the best finder in a 120 Rf ever!
celluloidprop
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Ah, I misremembered Cameraquest's pricing on a Bessa III - the difference a bit more than 25% buying a GF670 via B&H. I believe the Bessa III was even more prior to Fuji importing the GF670.
In which case a GF670W via B&H will probably be ~$2250 - if, as I said, things follow suit. A healthy savings of $750 - or almost two hundred rolls of Portra.
In which case a GF670W via B&H will probably be ~$2250 - if, as I said, things follow suit. A healthy savings of $750 - or almost two hundred rolls of Portra.
ssmc
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I do hope that Fuji starts importing the GF670W directly, as they have the GF670. That would cut the price almost in half if things follow suit.
+1 and I would get one, no sweat; since virtually all my film shooting is B&W, not being able to close the folder without removing the filter (or the filter in a hood) first was a deal-breaker for me.
Since B&H, Adorama and Badger have the folding Fuji GF670 listed for $1664, if the wide version came in at about 2k or so I think they would have a hit on their hands (though I gotta say the Bessa version in black looks sweeet...). I understand the limited production nature of the camera but I fail to see how the wider, fixed lens should command a 33% price premium over the folder.
My "fantasy" version would also be switchable to 6x4.5 which would give it an almost normal FOV and 16 shots to a roll but I know I'm only dreaming
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
The more I use the Bessa 667W - the more I like it! The lens is superb, sharp and with a nice contrast to it - not too edgy but just enough "snap" to make the negs pop. The AE works better than my brain - 99% of all shots are done with the AE - the odd one I do over-ride which is very easy and quick.
A friend gave me 5 rolls of Kodak +X 220 and I took them to Texas last week. Vancouver does not have enough light at the moment for +X!!!
We happened to get to Fredricksburg, Texas as the Texas VW Bug show was on - about 500 bugs in every shape gathered.
+X, processed in Pyrocat HD, semi stand development for 40 min (agitation at 10/20/30 min).
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
OK, most lenses are good stopped down to f11 or f16. The Bessa 667W is razor sharp at f4.5 too!
This is Mailee at Junior's in Round Rock, Texas. 1/15s and f4.5. Tmax 2-400 in Pyrocat HD, semi stand development.
sem
Registered User
Hi Tom,
I like the results! Was it handheld or do use a tripod?
Kind regards
I like the results! Was it handheld or do use a tripod?
Kind regards
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
I rarely use a tripod - I know that sometimes I should, but when traveling it becomes yet another piece of equipment that one has to drag around. The Bessa III and 667W are so soft in the release that I can handhold it at 1/4 sec with reasonable success.
In my past I shot a lot of large format and 120 with slow films - industrial photography and I learned to hate tripods with a vengeance. Fights with airlines about the bulk of them, dragging them around on sites etc - so when I stopped doing that I decided that a/ no tripods, except for macro work and b/only black and white and c/no clients/art directors to contend with.
In my past I shot a lot of large format and 120 with slow films - industrial photography and I learned to hate tripods with a vengeance. Fights with airlines about the bulk of them, dragging them around on sites etc - so when I stopped doing that I decided that a/ no tripods, except for macro work and b/only black and white and c/no clients/art directors to contend with.
sem
Registered User
Thanks Tom!
With the Plaubel 1/30 works with risk. Sometimes 1/15
So very impressive, very nice shot.
Kind regards
With the Plaubel 1/30 works with risk. Sometimes 1/15
So very impressive, very nice shot.
Kind regards
paulhart
Established
Both are Voigtlander Bessa III 667W with FP4+, scanned with a Nikon Coolscan 9000ED.
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trog
f/stop!
I'm so pleased with my Bessa III 667W that I'm seriously considering selling-off all my Hassey gear and adding the Bessa III folder to my MF kit.
louisb
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Just been reading through this thread as I have a growing interest in the GF670W for health reasons.
I'm currently using a Hass SWC, 500CM and Fuji GW690III.
I'm also now suffering quite seriously from hip joint and back problems. I just don't know how much longer I can cope with hauling the weight of these cameras.
The GW690 is a dream of a camera when it comes to image. The results are just spectacular. But I find it a heavy beast. The SWC is also capable of fantastic results but the 6x6 perspective is somewhat limiting. It does very well for some subject but not for others.
You can see where I am coming from - if the optics on the GF670W are anywhere near as good as the 690 then I'd probably benefit from less weight and bulk but it would mean saying goodbye to the SWC.
Or should I sell the 690 and just haul around the SWC?
Any opinions?
I mainly do urban landscapes with the occasional foray into the English countryside.
LouisB
I'm currently using a Hass SWC, 500CM and Fuji GW690III.
I'm also now suffering quite seriously from hip joint and back problems. I just don't know how much longer I can cope with hauling the weight of these cameras.
The GW690 is a dream of a camera when it comes to image. The results are just spectacular. But I find it a heavy beast. The SWC is also capable of fantastic results but the 6x6 perspective is somewhat limiting. It does very well for some subject but not for others.
You can see where I am coming from - if the optics on the GF670W are anywhere near as good as the 690 then I'd probably benefit from less weight and bulk but it would mean saying goodbye to the SWC.
Or should I sell the 690 and just haul around the SWC?
Any opinions?
I mainly do urban landscapes with the occasional foray into the English countryside.
LouisB
sem
Registered User
Hi louis,
I once had a swc and now a plaubel 670! Like the 6x7 more, so if I where you, I would buy 670W and test it, then sell the gear I don´t need any more.
Kind regards
I once had a swc and now a plaubel 670! Like the 6x7 more, so if I where you, I would buy 670W and test it, then sell the gear I don´t need any more.
Kind regards
louisb
Well-known
Sem
Thanks for the advice. Still hemming and hawing. I want both! Might sneak it in under the radar from the wife, try it and decide what I want to keep.
LouisB
Thanks for the advice. Still hemming and hawing. I want both! Might sneak it in under the radar from the wife, try it and decide what I want to keep.
LouisB
sem
Registered User
Sem
Thanks for the advice. Still hemming and hawing. I want both! Might sneak it in under the radar from the wife, try it and decide what I want to keep.
LouisB
I wish you good luck. My wife or my daughters always ask: Is this new?
Äh, ah..... Bad luck.
But it is the best way to get the right camera, you want to use in future.
Kind regards
louisb
Well-known
Pressed the button on a Fuji GF670w
Pressed the button on a Fuji GF670w
This thread made me laugh. I last posted on September. It has taken me nearly four months to make my mind up!
Fuji GF670w, Kodak Portra 400, 6x7 frame - pretty much the first out of the camera.
Pressed the button on a Fuji GF670w
This thread made me laugh. I last posted on September. It has taken me nearly four months to make my mind up!
Fuji GF670w, Kodak Portra 400, 6x7 frame - pretty much the first out of the camera.
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