BLKRCAT
75% Film
Fuji NPH-400 from 2006
I have some Tri-X from 97 in my Bronica right now. I can post results is requested once the roll is complete.
I have some Tri-X from 97 in my Bronica right now. I can post results is requested once the roll is complete.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
I just recently shot some 126 Verichrome Pan that "expired" 9/89. I ran it in HC-110 B according to the tech sheet at 65° to minimize fog. It looked great. A hint of fog only.
filmrescue
Newbie
advice for shooting expired film
advice for shooting expired film
There is so much to be considered when shooting expired film and rules of thumb for how long a film is expired and whether it is good to shoot don't work. In general, roll films stand up better than cassettes. B&W films better than color, films stored cold better than hot, Kodak better than Fuji, negative better than transparency. Add to that, is the person shooting expecting a pristine image or are they excited about getting a unique distressed look.
Regardless...fun question and I'm interested to see the responses.
For those that are thinking of shooting expired film here's a fairly useful link regarding specifics about expired film....
http://www.filmrescue.com/qualities/factors/
advice for shooting expired film
There is so much to be considered when shooting expired film and rules of thumb for how long a film is expired and whether it is good to shoot don't work. In general, roll films stand up better than cassettes. B&W films better than color, films stored cold better than hot, Kodak better than Fuji, negative better than transparency. Add to that, is the person shooting expecting a pristine image or are they excited about getting a unique distressed look.
Regardless...fun question and I'm interested to see the responses.
For those that are thinking of shooting expired film here's a fairly useful link regarding specifics about expired film....
http://www.filmrescue.com/qualities/factors/
HuubL
hunter-gatherer
1983 expired fp4. taken with a 1932 leica ii uncoated + elmar
wblynch
Well-known
I still have a half dozen rolls of 1984 Agfa Superpan 200. I shoot it at 100 and it comes out beautiful.
Their packaging was superb. It's fun to use; to remember the glory days of quality products before everything was ruined by the incessant drive to lower costs.
Funny because they made plenty good profit in those days. The cost cutting has gotten us nowhere but worse.
Damned MBA's have ruined the whole world.
Their packaging was superb. It's fun to use; to remember the glory days of quality products before everything was ruined by the incessant drive to lower costs.
Funny because they made plenty good profit in those days. The cost cutting has gotten us nowhere but worse.
Damned MBA's have ruined the whole world.
ChrisN
Striving
Thanks for chiming in here.
The linked site is well worth a look folks, especially the samples.
gsgary
Well-known
gsgary
Well-known
26 years out of date Tri-x and no idea how it was stored
bogdanb
Member
Fuji Super HG 1600 @ EI640, expired in 1997 and shot a couple of months ago
Nokton48
Mentor
Plaubel Makiflex Instant Photography.
Plaubel Makiflex Instant Photography.
Shot with a 1960's Plaubel Makiflex Standard and 135 barrel Xenar lens.
9x9cm image on Polaroid 52, developed for four minutes, instead of 20 seconds. Amazing that there is still an image at all. I still have about a hundred sheets of old 52 Polaroid to shoot up.
Instant Film Photography is still a HOOT.
Plaubel Makiflex Instant Photography.
Shot with a 1960's Plaubel Makiflex Standard and 135 barrel Xenar lens.
9x9cm image on Polaroid 52, developed for four minutes, instead of 20 seconds. Amazing that there is still an image at all. I still have about a hundred sheets of old 52 Polaroid to shoot up.
Instant Film Photography is still a HOOT.
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zorki2012
Newbie
Kiev 60
Kodak Tri-X Pan 400
Expired June 1987
Developed 08/19/2012 in L-76 @ 6 min
Graflex Pacemaker Crown Graphic
Kodak Royal Pan 2 1/4 X 3 1/4 Sheet Film
Expired Jan 1964
Developed 10/24/2012 in D-76 @ 10 min.
The film wanted to curl, the washed out corner is caused by the wadded up tissue I used to hold it down.
Kodak Tri-X Pan 400
Expired June 1987
Developed 08/19/2012 in L-76 @ 6 min
Graflex Pacemaker Crown Graphic
Kodak Royal Pan 2 1/4 X 3 1/4 Sheet Film
Expired Jan 1964
Developed 10/24/2012 in D-76 @ 10 min.
The film wanted to curl, the washed out corner is caused by the wadded up tissue I used to hold it down.
James1
Established
I recently developed a roll of Panatomic X (UK made) 120 size, in HC110 Dil B at 18C. The film had expired in 1970, and I shot it at box speed in September 2012. Zero fog - I was astonished.
Unfortunately, I don't have a scanner at the moment, so can't upload a sample :-(
When buying expired 35mm film, I try and buy bulk lengths in a can. That way, if the test roll is fine, almost certainly the rest of the can will be.
Unfortunately, I don't have a scanner at the moment, so can't upload a sample :-(
When buying expired 35mm film, I try and buy bulk lengths in a can. That way, if the test roll is fine, almost certainly the rest of the can will be.
leicapixie
Well-known
When digital jumped us all, there was "lots" of film available.
That's done! Even at large photo fairs the prices are too high.
Also i no longer wish to take chances..carefully using bad film!
Buying bulk rolls helps if one has good source. It will be B+H
for me! Here in Canada, prices are soaring. Not as bad as UK.
The get-kwik-rich idea, on the fewer remaining users push us to digital.
The traditional camera stores will lose us as clients with this.
We will become mail order folks. Labs too..
That's done! Even at large photo fairs the prices are too high.
Also i no longer wish to take chances..carefully using bad film!
Buying bulk rolls helps if one has good source. It will be B+H
for me! Here in Canada, prices are soaring. Not as bad as UK.
The get-kwik-rich idea, on the fewer remaining users push us to digital.
The traditional camera stores will lose us as clients with this.
We will become mail order folks. Labs too..
farlymac
PF McFarland
Fujichrome Velvia 50 (RPV 120) expired 1999-10
Fujichrome Velvia 50 (RPV 120) expired 1999-10
Friend of mine gave me a brick of this stuff. I keep trying to find out which camera I have that will work well with it. Shot these with a Bencini Koroll 120.
(It only has 1/50 at f11)
Goose Creek Valley by br1078phot, on Flickr
Field of Yellow and Green by br1078phot, on Flickr
I did attempt to wipe out the purplish cast these had. Maybe I'll just reroll them for some redscale work.
PF
Fujichrome Velvia 50 (RPV 120) expired 1999-10
Friend of mine gave me a brick of this stuff. I keep trying to find out which camera I have that will work well with it. Shot these with a Bencini Koroll 120.
(It only has 1/50 at f11)
Goose Creek Valley by br1078phot, on Flickr
Field of Yellow and Green by br1078phot, on Flickr
I did attempt to wipe out the purplish cast these had. Maybe I'll just reroll them for some redscale work.
PF
De_Corday
Eternal Student
A buddy of mine who nowadays only shoots medium or large format handed me a big bag of film he'd left at the top of his closet. Most of it hovered around the 10 year mark. A lot of Tri-X, which, save for some rolls that fogged while pushing, were all great if grainy. Rated at 320 and shot to my hearts content. a bit of Portra 160, which was a little grainy, but no color shifts at box speed. A lot of Velvia 100F, which looks brand new shot at box speed.
Sid836
Well-known
Hard to say. I have used Kodak Panatomic X in Rodinal that had expired before I was born and came out neatly. I have used Ilford P4 Surveillance that had expired in 2008 and the results were grainy and foggy.
Scrambler
Well-known
I've got some 43-year+ old (expired 43 years ago) Kodalith I am trying to use. It's a challenge more than a viable replacement for in-date film. It's interesting to find out what it takes to make it work properly. And the abnormal response curve doesn't help, and the fact that I'm not using it in the correct developer, or for the intended purpose.
Sadly the last attempt I made I completely forgot it was in the developer, and followed that up by forgetting it was in the fixer. Still, it's lithography film so all-or-nothing is where it wants to go anyway.
Scan-140715-0022 by Scrambler@4350, on Flickr
A useless photo even if properly exposed and developed, but something turned up despite all the reasons it shouldn't.
Oh well, I'll keep trying...
Sadly the last attempt I made I completely forgot it was in the developer, and followed that up by forgetting it was in the fixer. Still, it's lithography film so all-or-nothing is where it wants to go anyway.
Scan-140715-0022 by Scrambler@4350, on FlickrA useless photo even if properly exposed and developed, but something turned up despite all the reasons it shouldn't.
Oh well, I'll keep trying...
gsgary
Well-known
1985 expired Kodalith Ortho, got about 70 feet left, developed in Rodinal
Godfrey
somewhat colored
I love using junk film, long expired and stored poorly. There are tons of it around if you look—people can't really sell it except as junk.
I find it's fun to just toss it in a camera, guess at a sensitivity, shoot, and see what I can make of what comes out of it. Some of my favorite photos of the past decade have emerged out of doing just that with film that was 14, 15, 20 years expired.
This set came out of a roll of 13 years out of date Kodak Advantix APS film ...
I've tried and tried, it proves very very difficult to reproduce the color palette. and there's something about the prints that is just delightful to my eye.
G
I find it's fun to just toss it in a camera, guess at a sensitivity, shoot, and see what I can make of what comes out of it. Some of my favorite photos of the past decade have emerged out of doing just that with film that was 14, 15, 20 years expired.
This set came out of a roll of 13 years out of date Kodak Advantix APS film ...
I've tried and tried, it proves very very difficult to reproduce the color palette. and there's something about the prints that is just delightful to my eye.
G
Brian Atherton
Well-known
Two years ago I discovered stored in a box in my upstairs study, eleven rolls of 36-exp FP4 with an expiry date of 1986.
Used them and sent them off to a processor with a covering note (I now don’t have the ability to process my own films)… and they came back developed perfectly with not a sign of fog or lacking in quality.
Used them and sent them off to a processor with a covering note (I now don’t have the ability to process my own films)… and they came back developed perfectly with not a sign of fog or lacking in quality.