photobizzz
Speak of the Devil
After reading up about fixing shutter holes on the internet I just fixed mine, fast and easy.
There were 2 holes in my shutter from someone pointing the camera at the sun, (prior to me) I had my wife go to Home Depot and buy me a can of "Brush-On Electrical Tape" in black. (Make sure it is black!) It comes in small tubes but they didint have any so I have a large can (size of pvc pipe glue) of black goo. I took a small wooden match and dabbed a bit on the hole, smoothed it out as much as possible, repeat on the other side of the shutter, and let it dry 24hrs! The stuff dries rubbery (like the shutter curtain) and is guranteed not to dry out or crack. I will probably send my M3 to Youxin Ye when I get back to the states for a shutter replacement anyway, but for a quick and cheap fix this cant be beat.
I would recommend that you do not wind the camera or release the shutter for 24 hrs to insure that you do not get any wet goo inside your shutter.
*disclaimer* This worked great for me, but do not promise that you will not accidentally put your finger through your shutter if you are ham fisted or un-coordinated!
There were 2 holes in my shutter from someone pointing the camera at the sun, (prior to me) I had my wife go to Home Depot and buy me a can of "Brush-On Electrical Tape" in black. (Make sure it is black!) It comes in small tubes but they didint have any so I have a large can (size of pvc pipe glue) of black goo. I took a small wooden match and dabbed a bit on the hole, smoothed it out as much as possible, repeat on the other side of the shutter, and let it dry 24hrs! The stuff dries rubbery (like the shutter curtain) and is guranteed not to dry out or crack. I will probably send my M3 to Youxin Ye when I get back to the states for a shutter replacement anyway, but for a quick and cheap fix this cant be beat.
I would recommend that you do not wind the camera or release the shutter for 24 hrs to insure that you do not get any wet goo inside your shutter.
*disclaimer* This worked great for me, but do not promise that you will not accidentally put your finger through your shutter if you are ham fisted or un-coordinated!
Damaso
Photojournalist
Thanks for the tip!
photobizzz
Speak of the Devil
I think the paint is a good idea too but one of the burn holes was pretty big so I dont know if it would have worked for that one. I will be shooting my first roll with the M3 today, I cant wait for my 35 Summaron and 28 Ultron to arrive, I think the Silver CV 28 with external VF will look nice on the M3. I also have a Leica Meter MR for it on the way too. I ordered a clear top/bottom plate protector set too, hopefully it will keep the meter from scratching the top plate. I am looking forward to using this M3 for a long time and maybe passing it to my son when he gets older.
Spider67
Well-known
Yes there are countries where liquid electrical tape is unheard of.....sad story.
I used textile colour but still there was to much curtain in the holes!
I used textile colour but still there was to much curtain in the holes!
seanbonner
Established
I just did the same thing and fixed the shutter on my M7 perfectly. Super easy fix!
peterm1
Mentor
I agree its easy and have done the same using the same product. The only issue I found is that its pretty thick and gluggy so you have to be careful about how you apply it. A toothpick worked for me. But it works well on small pinholes.
I also had a camera that had some wider spread damage - the blind was, I suppose, on its way out and was letting light thru more generally - there were several areas. Even though I could not see any specific holes, tears or cracks. Its possible I did the damage myself when I had to retreive some torn film from the camera and (I suspect) the film scraped against the blind, shaving some of the rubber off it but not tearing or otherwise damaging it. To prolong the shutters life as the rubber otherwise did not seem to be cracking as it does when it gets old and perished, I used Pebeo Marbelling ink for fabrics. The black one of course. This is brushed on and results in a thin rubbery finish. It can be used on wider areas of damage without gumming the shutter up like the liquid electical tape would as its just too thick for anything more than a pinhole. Just be careful not to recock the shutter for a few days till it begins to dry and then cock fire and recock it regularly for the next week or so till it really dries. A hair drier might also speed up drying. I suspect his would not work quite so well for a pin hole unless its a very small one but is brilliant for that other situation. Never the less its very cheap to buy and could be worth trying if you have no other option for fixing pinhole.
The pebeo product seems to be readily available in art supply stores. Here is a link http://www.opulencesilksanddyes.com...eo_Marbling_Paints/pebeo_marbling_paints.html
I also had a camera that had some wider spread damage - the blind was, I suppose, on its way out and was letting light thru more generally - there were several areas. Even though I could not see any specific holes, tears or cracks. Its possible I did the damage myself when I had to retreive some torn film from the camera and (I suspect) the film scraped against the blind, shaving some of the rubber off it but not tearing or otherwise damaging it. To prolong the shutters life as the rubber otherwise did not seem to be cracking as it does when it gets old and perished, I used Pebeo Marbelling ink for fabrics. The black one of course. This is brushed on and results in a thin rubbery finish. It can be used on wider areas of damage without gumming the shutter up like the liquid electical tape would as its just too thick for anything more than a pinhole. Just be careful not to recock the shutter for a few days till it begins to dry and then cock fire and recock it regularly for the next week or so till it really dries. A hair drier might also speed up drying. I suspect his would not work quite so well for a pin hole unless its a very small one but is brilliant for that other situation. Never the less its very cheap to buy and could be worth trying if you have no other option for fixing pinhole.
The pebeo product seems to be readily available in art supply stores. Here is a link http://www.opulencesilksanddyes.com...eo_Marbling_Paints/pebeo_marbling_paints.html
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
Yes it is good stuff. In my area, Home Depot sells it as "liquid electrical tape."
mikemc_photo
Established
remember to cap your lens when not shooting as no mirror means you can still burn that hole....
R
rick oleson
Guest
I've used that stuff for pinholes (ie, cracked rubber coating on the curtain) to buy time until I could change the curtains - it can keep them going for a long time in some cases. For burn holes that were a little too big, what I've done is to use a paper punch to cut out a little circle from the zipper hem of a film changing bag, and glue that over the hole with contact cement. That lasts pretty much forever.
Roger Hicks
Mentor
Does anyone know if there's an equivalent available in Europe? I have a distinctly pious-looking Exakta shutter.
Cheers,
R.
Cheers,
R.
lol Im sorry Roger but I had to save this.
this is without question the most humorous typo I have ever seen.
wish I could help you with the liquid electrical tape though.
Particular
a.k.a. CNNY, disassembler
Not a typo, just humour.
Roger Hicks
Mentor
ferider
Mentor
My bottle (used for two Leicas) is made by Gardner Bender, Roger, represented by several online stores: http://www.gardnerbender.com/where_to_buy/retail_locations.html. They use Wire Logic as European Distributor.
There seem to be similar European products, like Permatex or Permafix, the latter you can get on amazon.uk, for instance. But I haven't used those.
Roger Hicks
Mentor
Dear Roland,
My bottle (used for two Leicas) is made by Gardner Bender, Roger, represented by several online stores: http://www.gardnerbender.com/where_to_buy/retail_locations.html. They use Wire Logic as European Distributor.
There seem to be similar European products, like Permatex or Permafix, the latter you can get on amazon.uk, for instance. But I haven't used those.
Great! Thanks!
Cheers,
R.
Farside
Member
In my ancient Zweiverschluss, there is a focal-plane blind shutter of miserable and cracked appearance, which leaked light like the Titanic's hull. Being short of liquid electrical tape (whossat, then? is the refrain of local electrical stockists) I improvised with a 50/50 mix of easily available substances.
Take PVA [1] and black acrylic poster paint, mix them, apply them with a stubby but wide brush, let dry for a day, then cock and fire the shutter many times, let dry again, and do the other section.
I did this repair four years ago and it's still perfectly light-tight.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinyl_acetate
Found in building supply stores as a binder for concrete floors. Can be bought in 500ml, 1L, 5L cans, dirt cheaply.
I now see the wiki entry mentions Elmer's Glue - in 2008, it didn't, and Elmer's Glue is unknown this side of the pond, although other paper glues are available, but I simply wasn't sure what was in them - PVA, otoh, was well-known to me.
Take PVA [1] and black acrylic poster paint, mix them, apply them with a stubby but wide brush, let dry for a day, then cock and fire the shutter many times, let dry again, and do the other section.
I did this repair four years ago and it's still perfectly light-tight.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinyl_acetate
Found in building supply stores as a binder for concrete floors. Can be bought in 500ml, 1L, 5L cans, dirt cheaply.
I now see the wiki entry mentions Elmer's Glue - in 2008, it didn't, and Elmer's Glue is unknown this side of the pond, although other paper glues are available, but I simply wasn't sure what was in them - PVA, otoh, was well-known to me.
Vince Lupo
Whatever
For pinholes I've used a fabric marker (it's used to decorate t-shirts etc), and it seems to hold up pretty well. I had a Reflex-Korelle 6x6 that had pinholes all over both shutter curtains, and though it took a while to fill them all in, I managed to fix them and made both curtains light-tight.
Here is an example of the kind of marker I used: http://www.michaels.com/Uchida-DecoFabric-Marker---Basics/gc1666,default,pd.html
Here is an example of the kind of marker I used: http://www.michaels.com/Uchida-DecoFabric-Marker---Basics/gc1666,default,pd.html
Sparrow
Mentor
... when latex is used commercially to back-coat fabric once dried it's dressed with French Chalk to remove any residual tack ... if I were using latex on a shutter blind I think I would do the same
R
rick oleson
Guest
One more random note on this ..... Liquid Electrical Tape is also available in spray cans. For a curtain that has multiple cracks/pinholes, you can mask off the back of the camera and spray the entire working area of the curtain through the film aperture. I've done this with a Pentacon Six: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26262745@N08/4273538461/in/photostream/
I successfully used black polyurethane sealant. In EU it can be found in any hardware store. You could do 1 million repairs with one cartidge but for just around 6 € each, no biggy.