RBCAMERA
Newbie
Don't know if this is the right forum but asking anyway...
Say you had an opportunity to buy a Summaron 35/2.8 for roughly the same price as a Light Lens Lab 35 8 element. Which would you chose.
LLL is LTM, The summaron is sans goggles and unfortunately an M (I also own a Barnack iiif)
For info.. I use an M2 mostly using Hp5 whole variety of different images... I am super torn as I love some of the images I have seen made with the Summaron, but I would be limiting myself camera wise for travel.. Help me Spock !!
Say you had an opportunity to buy a Summaron 35/2.8 for roughly the same price as a Light Lens Lab 35 8 element. Which would you chose.
LLL is LTM, The summaron is sans goggles and unfortunately an M (I also own a Barnack iiif)
For info.. I use an M2 mostly using Hp5 whole variety of different images... I am super torn as I love some of the images I have seen made with the Summaron, but I would be limiting myself camera wise for travel.. Help me Spock !!
Light Lens Lab 35mm f/2 8-Element Collapsible Black Paint (LTM/M-Moun
The Light Lens Lab 35mm f/2 Collapsible 8-Element Lens delivers performance very close to the famous first version of the "8-element" 35mm f/2 lens.
www.popflash.com
You want LTM: you could get a 35/3.5 Summaron for less, and use it on both cameras.
The Summaron 35/2.8 cannot be used on the LTM, that you like to use.
The LLL 35/2.8 will be limited production, and will be a cult lens once it is out of production. The Black Paint edition looks nice. Popflash is a reputable dealer.
Deardorff38
Mentor
I've had both a Summaron 2.8 LTM and a LLL 8 element black paint. If you plan to use it on your Barnack camera, the 3.5 Summaron would balance better. I found the 2.8 a bit hefty. I'm not sold on the new LLL collapsible. A 3.5 Elmar or 3.5 Summaron is a pretty small lens. Image quality of both the vintage and modern lenses is very good.
RBCAMERA
Newbie
I actually have a really good condition Summaron 35/2.5 but as I am into film I am always after a faster lens.
Deardorff38
Mentor
Canon did make a 35mm f1.8 LTM lens.....
WJJ3
Well-known
FWIW, some of the earlier Summaron 35/2.8 lenses have LTM threads hiding under the M mount. Look for a set screw on the mount. If it has one, the lens is likely a conversion mount lens.
Duofold RF
Well-known
Konica UC 35mm f2 is LTM mount, also canon 35mm f2 is excellent LTM lens
raid
Dad Photographer
I think that he meant the LLL 35/2.0 8 element lens and not the LLL 35/2.8.Light Lens Lab 35mm f/2 8-Element Collapsible Black Paint (LTM/M-Moun
The Light Lens Lab 35mm f/2 Collapsible 8-Element Lens delivers performance very close to the famous first version of the "8-element" 35mm f/2 lens.www.popflash.com
You want LTM: you could get a 35/3.5 Summaron for less, and use it on both cameras.
The Summaron 35/2.8 cannot be used on the LTM, that you like to use.
The LLL 35/2.8 will be limited production, and will be a cult lens once it is out of production. The Black Paint edition looks nice. Popflash is a reputable dealer.
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raid
Dad Photographer
The LLL lens is a 35mm/2.0 with 8 elements. It is not a LLL 35mm/2.8 ltm lens.I've had both a Summaron 2.8 LTM and a LLL 8 element black paint. If you plan to use it on your Barnack camera, the 3.5 Summaron would balance better. I found the 2.8 a bit hefty. I'm not sold on the new LLL collapsible. A 3.5 Elmar or 3.5 Summaron is a pretty small lens. Image quality of both the vintage and modern lenses is very good.
JSteed#2
Established
my vote is the Canon 35mm f2 LTM. Outstanding, and i use it a lot with an adapter on M's.
Erik van Straten
Mentor
There are very light-weight Summaron 35/2.8 lenses, made of aluminium, but there are also heavier ones in brass mounts.
raid
Dad Photographer
I have Canon 35/1.5 35/1.8 35/2.0 35/2.8. They are very different from each other.
Deardorff38
Mentor
Yes Raid, but the OP asked about the LLL vs Summaron comparison ....here: " opportunity to buy a Summaron 35/2.8 for roughly the same price as a Light Lens Lab 35 8 element"
raid
Dad Photographer
You are right. He did not say LLL 35/2.8. I would get the Summaron if I were into B&W prints.
This threw me off "The LLL 35/2.8 will be limited production, and will be a cult lens once it is out of production"
This threw me off "The LLL 35/2.8 will be limited production, and will be a cult lens once it is out of production"
Erik van Straten
Mentor
I would take the LLL. I like photos with a shallow depth of field, especially when taken with a wide-angle lens. The 35mm f1.4 is better still. BTW, I've not seen any pictures taken with the new steel rim.
Deardorff38
Mentor
Erik the OP wanted a lens that could be used on an LTM as well as M. Have you seen an LTM steel rim 35mm 1.4?
"LLL is LTM, The summaron is sans goggles and unfortunately an M (I also own a Barnack iiif)"
Erik van Straten
Mentor
I'm sorry, I've not read the whole thread. Is there a Leitz 8 elements LTM lens? I'll look that up. Yes there are, but these focus not closer than 1m, just like the f1.4.
Deardorff38
Mentor
Erik the comparison was a Leitz Summaron vs the Light Lens Lab 8 element copy.
Erik van Straten
Mentor
Then my choice would be the LLL, because I like fast wide angle lenses. I've said that already.
Deardorff38
Mentor
The LLL is a shockingly good lens for the price we paid when they were first offered here on RFF.
