tomtofa
Well-known
I think the XE-1 and X-Vario may share the same or similar sensor - that's why some comparisons will be welcome - lens (and system manipulations of the signal) against lens.
Monochrom
Well-known
c´mon fuji, let´s ,ake the x20 with a larger sensor...
for sure the xe1 + zoom will give leica x-vario a hard time...i still believe tomorrow leica will make the lens samller and the aperture wider.
...am i naive????
for sure the xe1 + zoom will give leica x-vario a hard time...i still believe tomorrow leica will make the lens samller and the aperture wider.
...am i naive????
Spicy
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Leica Digital: "We take consumers' giant boatloads of cash and use it to find and employ people with exceptionally mediocre ideas, along with a crack team in the marketing department who excel in bringing out disappointing products. Your continued zealous patronage while we continue to let you down is appreciated."
Summicronj
Member
Terrible! Tri-elmar with a constant f4 would have been slightly more acceptable and leica-like. Lets wait for the real world pictures before final judgement...
willie_901
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My comments are self-embargoed until after the official announcement.
Harry Caul
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And EVF!!
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aleksanderpolo
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Sigh...
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gavinlg
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This is actually a brilliant idea.
400tx
Member
I feel similar frustration, but totally disagree with your opinion here.
Chopping of the vario-snoozer lens for a second, this camera has fantastic direct top plate controls, a great 5-way like m240, a great thumbrest/assignable thumb dial again like m240, way cooler looking m-shaped top plate, and takes optical or electronic viewfinders in a standard shoe.
I think the frustration comes from the lens, which is totally disappointing to most folks here, but is likely a well-executed design for what it intends to be. It's a camera more like ones for casual use, but its really no reason to call the ideas mediocre, they're just product-market fit decisions and there are no hard feelings.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Leica: "Mini-M!" "Mini-M!" "Mini-M!"
Montoya: "You keep on using that word. I do not think it meens what yu think it meens".
Montoya: "You keep on using that word. I do not think it meens what yu think it meens".
Kent
Finally at home...
I don't like any kind of bashing, but I really don't see what Leica wants to achieve.
Ah, ok, they want to sell, and sell they will...
Personally, and without attacking anybody's preference, I think there are three major issues which definitely stop me from thinking about buying this cam:
1. Lens is too slow.
2. Price.
3. No internal viewfinder.
The same three issues stopped my from buying ax X1 or X2. So, the "X Vario" seems to be a real "X".
As to the advertising name "Mini-M". Silly.
Or Volkswagen could sell the Golf as a "Mini-911" and the Polo as a "Micro-911".
Would I buy the X Vario, if I had the money available? Perhaps, just to see how well it performs. But I am too much of a viewfinder guy (bought the NEX-7 and the Nikon 1 V1 because of that), so I guess I would not like to use it.
Anyway, I'm sure we will see loads of excellent photos taken with it, soon.
Ah, ok, they want to sell, and sell they will...
Personally, and without attacking anybody's preference, I think there are three major issues which definitely stop me from thinking about buying this cam:
1. Lens is too slow.
2. Price.
3. No internal viewfinder.
The same three issues stopped my from buying ax X1 or X2. So, the "X Vario" seems to be a real "X".
As to the advertising name "Mini-M". Silly.
Or Volkswagen could sell the Golf as a "Mini-911" and the Polo as a "Micro-911".
Would I buy the X Vario, if I had the money available? Perhaps, just to see how well it performs. But I am too much of a viewfinder guy (bought the NEX-7 and the Nikon 1 V1 because of that), so I guess I would not like to use it.
Anyway, I'm sure we will see loads of excellent photos taken with it, soon.
400tx
Member
I tried one today. Great build quality, and other manufacturers could take notes on the top plate and focus ring.
400tx
Member
Harry Caul
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sc_rufctr
Leica nuts
Disappointing maybe but what will the next model be like?
What if it had a removable lens and adapter to take M mount lenses?
I can't see that as being too hard... But you'd have to use an EVF or the rear scene to focus.
And a focus confirm feature would certainly make it more desirable.
Maybe with all the negative feedback Leica may consider some improvements??? They do listen to customer feedback.
What if it had a removable lens and adapter to take M mount lenses?
I can't see that as being too hard... But you'd have to use an EVF or the rear scene to focus.
And a focus confirm feature would certainly make it more desirable.
Maybe with all the negative feedback Leica may consider some improvements??? They do listen to customer feedback.
raphaelaaron
Well-known
something like this?
if only. i guarantee I would've snatched one up if it went for the same price.
kknox
kknox
Put one in your hands & then decide. The build quality is exceptional, and again with the higher ISO the 3.5 is no big deal. I thought no way when I first heard about this camera, then I picked it up & shoot a few pic's. You just might consider it, the out of the camera pic are outstanding.
The only negative feedback that is going to matter is from actual owners. People who bitch on the internet about cameras they do not own are not customers.
Spicy
Well-known
some of us would be potential customers. not our fault leica digital decided to tell us they weren't interested in our patronage...
Do you get offended each time a company releases something that doesn't fit your needs though?