gavinlg
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I would agree, however I'd add that a small sensor camera is pretty much out no matter how well it otherwise performs - simple because of it's small sensor. I'm not a fan of the infinite DOF thing that comes with small sensors. m4/3 is too little control over that aspect already for me!
gavinlg
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News: Apparently Nikon asked the chinese forum member that posted the pic of the mirror less sensor and mount to remove it from the forum...
eleskin
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A 4 letter word for this camera
A 4 letter word for this camera
I could use #$%@ or @#*^ but for this forum let me say this camera is J-U-N-K!!!!
Give me the M8 1.3 crop at least. Otherwise it is #$%@!!!!!!!!!!!
A 4 letter word for this camera
I could use #$%@ or @#*^ but for this forum let me say this camera is J-U-N-K!!!!
Give me the M8 1.3 crop at least. Otherwise it is #$%@!!!!!!!!!!!
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
I'm with you guys! It's always a good idea to judge a camera on the basis of rumors about its specifications rather than real-world experience using it to make pictures.
gavinlg
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semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
So you took that photograph with one of the Nikon mirrorless cameras, then? How did it handle, and how did the files look?
gavinlg
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I can tell you what it won't have without even using it - any depth of field control.
Yes I am a wizard.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
I remember a discussion or two with you (like this) in the X100 pre-release threads, though, where you seemed rather active in general.
(Back then you were excited about the "potential" of the camera based on leaked specs, though leaked deliberately; I guess here it's just that people are disappointed about lack of potential based on leaked specs.)
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Paul T.
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There was plenty of information about the X100 at the early stage - the lens, the format, and the viewfinder. WHere is there equivalent information for the Nikon?
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Then again, the discussion here is nowhere near the level of technical sophistication of those X100 threads - here, it's just hypothetical questions of "if it's such and such a crop lens, it's probably not interesting for me". You can have that discussion on the basis of a leaked lens mount picture without hurting anyone.
My X100 comment was primarily directed at the comment about real-world experience using a camera to make pictures being preferable to discussion based on specs and rumours. In general I would tend to agree, always assuming the actual availability of the camera in question. However, the inverse observation from the X100 case is also true that the lack of such pictures (and cameras to take them with) didn't stop anyone from extensive commenting activity, the poster in question included.
Finally, in a forum full of camera nerds such as this forum, it seems like a very common trope to ask for taking pictures instead of technical discussion. You read this a lot and I've been making that kind of comment myself. However, if you come to think of it, all that trope does is play to the collective bad conscience among camera nerds concerning talking about gear. The fact that we all know this bad conscience to exist makes playing to it a bit of a cheap argument.
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semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
^---- Bingo. There were actually things to talk about with the X100. Here? Essentially nothing, yet. I'll talk about this camera when there's actually something to talk about.
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
If that's the real sensor, and if it turns out that you're right about the size, then yes, you are also correct that it will (at times) be difficult to obtain inadequate depth of field in photos of cats and old mailboxes — a crucial element in composing digital photographs that look as though they were shot with an overpriced Holga.
gavinlg
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Mattikk
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I am hoping for the Foveon technology to be developed further (FX with true 12 Mpix) and get implemented in a decent body (e.g. Leica M10). But I am not in a hurry.
Wow. Now that is an idea! Why didn't I ever think of that. That's the best possible camera I can imagine.
Taipei-metro
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