shawn
Mentor
The failure point I've seen a few (like 2 or 3) people experience is on the hybrid viewfinders with the black out screen getting stuck. I never had a problem with this on any of mine. (x100, x100f, xp1, xp2)
JohnGellings
Well-known
But that's the OVF/EVF combo... he specifically said EVF.
shawn
Mentor
Yup, that is true. Just plain EVF failures I don't recall ever hearing anything about those either.
leolab
Member
On the Xpro and x100 there is an evf within the OVF which projects framelines, focus point, shooting info even when using the OVF, i believe its the same EVF screen as the one which projects the image when in EVF mode. If the EVF fails it would certainly impair the OVF on these cameras
JohnGellings
Well-known
Yes, that is a big if. Again, I am a Fuji user who goes to various Fuji forums and groups. I´ve owned over 20 Fuji bodies myself. I have never heard of any widespread issues with the EVF going bad. Note that the person who wrote this is an OVF lover. Sounds more like fear than reality.
There is no need to disparage Fuji in a thread about the Zf, so let's move on.
Having used many mirrorless since the first one 15+ years ago, I've never heard of any EVF failures, although I'm sure they fail, it's very rare, and likely has a root cause (moisture or other abuse.)
raid
Dad Photographer
Moving away from using a rangefinder is a major step. Are you using both, a RF and a mirrorless camera?
JeffS7444
Well-known
Not the Zf, but I've been eyeing the Zfc for some time. Using with legacy glass, much less at native coverage, isn't a factor. When I handled it, I thought it seemed well-made, yet lightweight, and that's an appealing combination for me.
sojournerphoto
Mentor
For me, very much mostly rangefinder, with film, then the rest is a mixture of film slr and mirrorless, plus the 617 scale focus! I bought the S1r primarily to scan film, but found it to be a camera I wanted to use outside sometimes too.
leolab
Member
Who is disparaging Fuji, and why would you care so much...
JohnGellings
Well-known
Well, I use a bunch of Fuji cameras and find them to be very good. They are very good cameras, but of course not without faults like maybe slower AF than other brands or something of that nature. When you say something that I do not find to be true, based on my extensive knowledge and usage of the brand, I feel it is ok, in a camera forum, to say that isn't the case. That said, I just have never seen any complaint about widesprerad EVF failure from any brand to be honest. It just isn't a thing you have to worry about. If you really have a few friends that have had EVF failures, that would be very rare I'd think.
DownUnder
Nikon Nomad
Yes. If I could find one secondhand at an affordable price. Over here they are as rare as diamonds in the sand on Bondi Beach, as a local saying goes.
However, this being a Nikon thread, if (or when) my XE2 EVF kicks the bucket, I will move back into Nikon, either with a Zfc or a Zf if an affordable used one comes my way.
On my pensioner's income this is an important consideration. As good or even as great a camera as it is, forking out AUD $4000 for the Zf is way beyond what I can afford.
I've heard good things about the Zfc, but this is taking us away from the original intent of this thread. So no more said.
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kshapero
South Florida Man
Right now for digital I have an M10 and a Fuji X-Pro3 with awesome lenses. What the Hell! I feel guilty having two such rigs. And now the Zf? Yechs!! GAS GAS GAS. NO! for now.
leolab
Member
Please point me to what I said that you do not find to be true...your assumptions/fears appear to me to be simple fanboyism
Fuji Confirms EVF Issue that Affects 'Small Percentage' of X-Pro3 Cameras
Users of Fujifilm's brand new and much-anticipated X-Pro3 rangefinder have started reporting a troubling issue with their viewfinders. A number of users
petapixel.com
It looks like a batch of EVF's were a problem. Figure just-out-of-gate issues. I have two Nikon F2 bodies from the 1971 first production batch of 1600 cameras. I know of a person that held to the Nikon F because they had cameras from the same batch that locked up during an important field test, 50+ years ago. Bypassed all Nikon F2's made thereafter. Mine- bought used, work just fine 50+ years later. F2 bodies up to 1974 had a backlash problem when used with a motor. Nikon F4- first batch, self-destructing shutters. Leica M8- coffee stain LCD problem. etc, Etc. This is the "Manufacturer Specifications May Change" and rev level on components. Best to wait a year when a new camera is announced. Otherwise, consider it "Bleeding Edge" of technology.
I'll probably get my Zf in March. Jorge's Zf has not had a problem...
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Do it!!!! The ZF is just waiting for you.
Jorge: I see you've been doing Software Updates. Is the Post Subliminal Message working yet?
Buy a ZF. Buy a ZF.
Buy a ZF. Buy a ZF.
Dogman
Mentor
Fuji Confirms EVF Issue that Affects 'Small Percentage' of X-Pro3 Cameras
Users of Fujifilm's brand new and much-anticipated X-Pro3 rangefinder have started reporting a troubling issue with their viewfinders. A number of users
It looks like a batch of EVF's were a problem. Figure just-out-of-gate issues. I have two Nikon F2 bodies from the 1971 first production batch of 1600 cameras. I know of a person that held to the Nikon F because they had cameras from the same batch that locked up during an important field test, 50+ years ago. Bypassed all Nikon F2's made thereafter. Mine- bought used, work just fine 50+ years later. F2 bodies up to 1974 had a backlash problem when used with a motor. Nikon F4- first batch, self-destructing shutters. Leica M8- coffee stain LCD problem. etc, Etc. This is the "Manufacturer Specifications May Change" and rev level on components. Best to wait a year when a new camera is announced. Otherwise, consider it "Bleeding Edge" of technology.
I'll probably get my Zf in March. Jorge's Zf has not had a problem...
I was an early purchaser of the first Nikon F3 bodies. The ones before the HP model. It was a disaster. Stopped working every time the humidity was high much less in a light misting rain. Poorly sealed. NPS wasn't much help, other than offering to sell me the improved version F3P at full retail price. I passed, bought another F2 and survived with the outdated technology.
These days I just take it in stride. Stuff happens, thankfully, not very often. If it's a new product, the manufacturer will fix or replace it. Most people with new Nikon F3s were happy with them. I think the Fuji X-Pro3 had problems with the ribbon cable in the screens (I never liked that screen anyway). I remember some complained about the X-Pro2 eyepiece coming apart (I taped mine over with gaffer tape just in case). I've had zero problems with any of my Fujis and all my Nikons are old, bought used and work beautifully.
JohnGellings
Well-known
That's an issue on a just released camera though... that's a little different. Those things get ironed out quickly and then you do not hear about them again.Fuji Confirms EVF Issue that Affects 'Small Percentage' of X-Pro3 Cameras
Users of Fujifilm's brand new and much-anticipated X-Pro3 rangefinder have started reporting a troubling issue with their viewfinders. A number of users
It looks like a batch of EVF's were a problem. Figure just-out-of-gate issues.
The Fuji forum certainly has documented issues with the EVF.
www.fujix-forum.com
Some issues seemed to be firmware related. It happens. Leica firmware is not reliable. Nikon firmware on a camera owned by one of my neighbors turned off the AF function. Some setting in firmware that had nothing to do with AF turned it off as a side-effect. Stupid Bug, but stuff I am used to. Think of a camera as a computer, running software with bugs in it, not the easiest to use, and full of complex circuits that can fail. Yet with all that- they displaced film cameras.
X-E2 - Please help! Xe2 Evf dead, lcd switched off.
Hi all, I'm absolutely gutted that my first post here is not a positive one about the fantastic xe2 (Which i've owned and loved for a year). I had my camera set to Evf only and so the lcd screen was not being used. (I don't usually have it set like this but I won't bore you with that). For...
www.fujix-forum.com
Some issues seemed to be firmware related. It happens. Leica firmware is not reliable. Nikon firmware on a camera owned by one of my neighbors turned off the AF function. Some setting in firmware that had nothing to do with AF turned it off as a side-effect. Stupid Bug, but stuff I am used to. Think of a camera as a computer, running software with bugs in it, not the easiest to use, and full of complex circuits that can fail. Yet with all that- they displaced film cameras.